How do you play this common shot?

SpiderWebComm said:
I know you guys love it when they play safe, but you prob REAAAAAALLY love it when they go for it and dog out with the OB hanging within lay-up distance. (i.e. people should do what they're capable of vs. the odds of the shot)
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Truth be told, no matter what your strategy is, you're going to have a fair amount of exchange over the long run. Sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose. I think showing an ability to be aggressive has a lot of advantages, especially early on in a set. Everyone is a little afraid of the shotmaker (even if he's a bit lucky).
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I know you guys love it when they play safe, but you prob REAAAAAALLY love it when they go for it and dog out with the OB hanging within lay-up distance. (i.e. people should do what they're capable of vs. the odds of the shot)
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Truth be told, no matter what your strategy is, you're going to have a fair amount of exchange over the long run. Sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose. I think showing an ability to be aggressive has a lot of advantages, especially early on in a set. Everyone is a little afraid of the shotmaker (even if he's a bit lucky).
 
Given the distance the 9 is from the end rail I would go for the cut. If for some reason I felt that a safety play was better then I would play something based on where I felt my opponent had a weakness. There are any amount of safeties to play. If I were my opponent and I left me a cut shot then I would be in trouble but if I left me a bank not as much trouble. As far as shooting it goes I am a stronger cut player so I would cut it if I was a strong bank player then I would bank it. So situation dictates based on your style of play.
 
Color me simple but there is no way I do anything but shoot the bank here...It may not be a high percentage shot,but its still pretty dam playable. Truthfully,I can see me missing the safety easier then I can missing the bank.

Rifle it in and hope if it misses,it misses bad enuogh luck into a tough look I say.
 
Trying to cut it from that distance might be the absolute worst thing to try and do. Yes, it's definitely a makeable shot but in order to feather a ball like that, you have to be willing to miss it entirely. You basically have zero luck factor on the shot after that. Either you make it now or you lose. All the other options have either multiple pockets or difficult leaves.
 
2rgrbn said:
Given the distance the 9 is from the end rail I would go for the cut. If for some reason I felt that a safety play was better then I would play something based on where I felt my opponent had a weakness. There are any amount of safeties to play. If I were my opponent and I left me a cut shot then I would be in trouble but if I left me a bank not as much trouble. As far as shooting it goes I am a stronger cut player so I would cut it if I was a strong bank player then I would bank it. So situation dictates based on your style of play.
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Black-Balled said:
You would lose 10/10 then. That ball is basically un-cuttable.
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I'll cut that un-cuttable ball in 7 out of 10 all day. I mentioned that situation dictates and a decision here should be based off of ones playing style and / or strengths. In my style of play I love a cut, however I am not a strong bank shot guy. So I would cut it unless I felt that my opponent thought a cut like this was impossible which it is NOT then I may play safe in an effort to leave him a cut shot that he viewed as un makable
 
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Neil said:
Being able to cut that ball depends soley on the shooters strengths. Personally, I would cut it before I banked it. I'm used to tables that don't bank accurately, so I learned to cut balls real well. But, I would recommend the bank over the cut to 90% of shooters.
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Thank You I am in agreement
 
2rgrbn said:
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I'll cut that un-cuttable ball in 7 out of 10 all day. ...
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"In" being of extreme importance, BULL $HIT. You may choose that 7/10 times, but to make it? BS.

70% Laughable...
 
Are we looking at the same diagram? The shot I see is about 5 inches from the short rail, cueball has a flat angle and is about 8 feet away. I mean, if you can cut this in 7 of 10, why work?
 
Black-Balled said:
"In" being of extreme importance, BULL $HIT. You may choose that 7/10 times, but to make it? BS.

70% Laughable...
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OK you are right I am crazy for even thinking that shot could ever be cut, thanks for bringing to my senses. Wow I really have a lot to learn.
 
Neil said:
Being able to cut that ball depends soley on the shooters strengths. Personally, I would cut it before I banked it. I'm used to tables that don't bank accurately, so I learned to cut balls real well. But, I would recommend the bank over the cut to 90% of shooters.
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And don't be thinking that Neil's endorsement puts an S on your chest either.:wink:
 
2rgrbn said:
OK you are right I am crazy for even thinking that shot could ever be cut, thanks for bringing to my senses. Wow I really have a lot to learn.
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Are you serious, you learned that quickly? I am glad you did.:) :)

I like how you have gone from boner-sure 70% make it to crazy for even thinking that shot could ever be cut.

I am telling you, we don't just make this $hit up...we lived it.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Are we looking at the same diagram? The shot I see is about 5 inches from the short rail, cueball has a flat angle and is about 8 feet away. I mean, if you can cut this in 7 of 10, why work?
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Look at your avatar is that a difficult cut, I don't think so, but many players might. I shoot cuts as the basis of my game. There are many guys that can bank this shot 7 out of 10 I probably can't bank it 3 out of 10, Apparently no one is reading what is posted in each case I have eluded to playing to your strengths my strength is cutting balls I have practiced the shot in the diagram many times. It is not an easy shot but it is makable in my style of play much more so then a bank. You veteran players set it up and spend 1 solid hour cutting it in at the end of that hour you will be cutting it in then spend 20 plus years with cut shots being the basis of your game odds are you may prefer the cut over the bank or the safety, At no point did I tell anyone that this is the only play and at every point I mentioned this shot is a situational shot how I would approach it varies from case to case. Why do I work because it is easier then pool and much more profitable.
 
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2rgrbn said:
Look at your avatar is that a difficult cut, I don't think so, but many players might. I shoot cuts as the basis of my game. There are many guys that can bank this shot 7 out of 10 I probably can't bank it 3 out of 10, Apparently no one is reading what is posted in each case I have eluded to playing to your strengths my strength is cutting balls I have practiced the shot in the diagram many times. It is not an easy shot but it is makable in my style of play much more so then a bank.
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My avatar shows the cueball only a foot or so away. I'm not fond of any thin cut 8 feet away. That's me. My eye-sight stinks.
 
2rgrbn said:
I'll cut that un-cuttable ball in 7 out of 10 all day...
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I don't see anyone making this on a 9 footer more than 20% - and that's with the holy man Himself on the cue, practicing it all day, and with buckets.

2rgrbn, tell us your gonna getcha a camera, and put it online. You'll have more action than a drunken Pamela Anderson on a troop train.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
The safety's percentage is not based on whether or not you can shoot the safe as diagramed but whether or not you win the game. Even if you shoot it as diagrammed, you're going to lose a percentage of these.
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Play the shot thicker to leave the 9 further down table at about the 3rd diamond. Leave the CB closer to the head rail and the chances of your opponent making THAT bank becomes a lot lower...unfortunately it leaves the return safe that puts you back into the same position you started with.
 
KoolKat9Lives said:
I don't see anyone making this on a 9 footer more than 20% - and that's with the holy man Himself on the cue, practicing it all day, and with buckets.

2rgrbn, tell us your gonna getcha a camera, and put it online. You'll have more action than a drunken Pamela Anderson on a troop train.
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Wow, I just fell off my chair.
 
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