How does one buy a cue (not how to choose, exactly)

Here's my take on it:

Almost universally, all the cues today over $100 are going to be well built and not have any rattles when hitting the ball or other quality issues. So unless you buy a Walmart cue with slip on tips, you will be fine with the quality.

It doesn't matter how the cue "feels" in your hands. Whether the "feel" is the sound it makes at impact with the cue ball, or the vibration that travels to your grip hand, or the balance, etc. The reason it doesn't matter, is you will get used to whatever the "feel" is on the cue you buy in a few minutes of playing.

With that said, buy based on aesthetics and budget. Don't worry about returning it, because you will like how it plays within a few minutes of shooting balls:)

I'm 100% serious on this. Others might think I'm crazy, but this has been my experience playing for 25 years and going through many cues in that time. There was not a single cue I didn't like, or didn't play the same with.
And if a person ends up with 2 or 3 or whatever that's ok. Can use one for breaking(with a break shaft) or let a friend use one if you're playing together.
 
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You have received many good suggestions, even if they are not consistent!

The idea of asking good players with their own cues if you can hit is a good one, but what you can try will be limited to what people happen to have. I would still do it - more info is better!

When I was looking for my first real cue in 2000, I waited until the Super Billiards Expo (held in the spring in Philly), where there are a ton of custom and production cue makers in attendance and you can hit with their cues. I tried entry level cues from maybe a dozen makers and chose the one I wanted. I went with the entry level (about $350-$450 at the time) cues because I figured I wouldn't have too much invested in the cue if my tastes change in the future (and because I would have felt very self-conscious with a flashy expensive cue when I couldn't run 3 balls). That "entry level cue" is still my playing cue today, even though I own some nice and way more expensive cues.

If you can't wait that long and want another place with tons of cues to buy, I'm pretty sure the BCA nationals coming up in Vegas will have tons of cues and somewhere to hit.

If none of that works, I like the idea of going to the local guy with 50 cues. If he's got a good selection of good production cues and low-end customs, then you can get something that you will find perfectly fine for under $500 (maybe quite a bit under).
 
I will toss out another suggestion ....

Look through the Schmelke website and find a cue that you like. Order it with several shafts. They offer different tip sizes (try a 12.5 and a 13 maybe ?) and tapers (I would suggest a pro taper and an extended pro taper). This way you really get several different cues in one, all from a top notch US maker/company and at a reasonable price.

http://schmelkecue.com/billiard-cues.html

If you go this way I'd suggest calling them after you have an idea about what you might order. I am sure they will help you with the process, they are great to deal with in my experience.

Good luck with your endeavor, hope it works out well for you.

Dave

PS, the suggestion of tracking down a local (ish) seller and trying various cues you like that are in your price range might be the best suggestion IMO
 
There is pretty much 0 ways to know if you will like a cue...

...I always tell people, if they can, visit a pool hall, make friends with people, play in tournaments with them, once they kick your butt in pool, say "that's a nice cue, can I try a few hits with it?" LOL
Agree fully.

You just don't know until you shoot with it, and the best way to try cues is to make friends at the pool room!
 
If you can't wait that long and want another place with tons of cues to buy, I'm pretty sure the BCA nationals coming up in Vegas will have tons of cues and somewhere to hit.

Yeah, I'm trying to take it more seriously, but flying to Vegas for an expo is a bit more serious than I had in mind at the moment.

....You can test drive a $100k car but can't hit a $400 cue? ...
Exactly my issue!

To address your statement " I know of no issue that a new cue will solve for me,"; I might have to disagree. A cue is the single best investment you could make to improve your game.

I do not quite buy that, at least not yet. Drawing from my photography experience, an expensive camera helps me, but I have decades of experience and shoot a specialized genre. Someone just starting out -- not so much, as they wouldn't know what kind of features to look for. I hear people all the time buying a high end sports-shooting camera, when what they needed was a high end landscape camera, and their lament is "I bought the most expensive one and my shots got worse".

So when I say I "know of no issue" I meant it literally -- I do not feel limited by anything that the cue is doing (at least that I know it is doing). Yet. I'm sure there are issues. But I feel like I'm pretty far away from being able to say "I need a wider ferrule" or even probably more simple "I need a softer tip".

How can it help me if I don't know what features to push for? Other than to paraphrase what someone said, buy middle of the road, rather neutral/average, and hope just the better quality helps.

That does remind me of a question. Here is what I have four of that came with the table:

https://www.brunswickbilliards.com/centennial-cue/

Are these what might be (per one of the above) low quality production cues?

In reading some other postings it sounds like they are made by Joss (though some said otherwise); I'd hate to spend a couple hundred dollars to basically get the same cue with a different label on it.

Your question really stems from budget. What do you have to spend? I have suggestions but, it depends on budget, playing style and what type of cue feedback you want. This has been my experience. Prices have sky rocketed in the custom cue market.

It's a fair question but one I have no good answer to. It's not primarily limited by money, but more by a perception of value.

At this moment it's more about just getting something interesting looking, a new toy to keep my interest high. Since I am not convinced that it will have some innate benefit to my game, the value would be just cosmetic.

Now if I come to a realization that there's something I really need something -- let's hypothesize I need a low deflection shaft (whatever that really means in shooting) -- then getting one has a lot more value and I'll spend more money.

I have zero (probably less than zero) interest in becoming a collector, and/or in buying and selling cues for fun or profit. So for example, even if I could get a stellar deal on a high end custom cue whose main value is to collectors, I would not be interested even if I could afford it.

1. Bill Lister is in Florida, not sure where exactly but he has over 50 cues for sale at the moment & I'm sure he would let you try a few out. He is a member here & I believe his screen name is billiardbills on here. If you can't find his his website is www.billiardbills.com & I'm sure his contact info is there.

Now THAT looks interesting. He's only about 2 miles from me. Thanks for that pointer. Though the vast majority on his web page are pricy custom cues, but down at the bottom he has some more attractively priced in terms of buying to add a bit of fun to the game. He has a "production cue" page, but not sure if he stocks them. But yes, indeed - looks like worth a trip, once I refine this a bit more.

2. I believe if you order a cue from www.seyberts.com they offer a return policy in a certain time frame. Not sure how many times they would allow you to keep returning cues though.

Well, and I could do that with Amazon as well, though I really hate returning stuff. I always feel like it's unfair, people ordering 4 or 5 things, to see what they like, returning all but one. But I know a lot of people do it. Much more interested in finding a place I can try some.

And if a person ends up with 2 or 3 or whatever that's ok. Can use one for breaking(with a break shaft) or let a friend use one if you're playing together.

Well, I already have 4 plus a shorty.

Agree fully.

You just don't know until you shoot with it, and the best way to try cues is to make friends at the pool room!

That's probably the real answer, just need to find one I can tolerate. I was really surprised not to find at least some sites that tried to attract families with a no-smoking policy, but so far I can find only one tiny one in a pretty large area here. Maybe it's that they make their money on the bar, and bars here are almost always smoking. Competition speaks I guess.
 
Look for craftsmanship. It's like a woman's toes. If her toes are in good shape then chances are the rest is also. LOL! Look. At the points and rings. Are they all even?

I can't say enough about this piece of advice.


Freddie <~~~ in praise of points and rings in women's toes
 
I can't say enough about this piece of advice.


Freddie <~~~ in praise of points and rings in women's toes

So, put rings on my wife's toes and point them... at the object ball? And use the toes as a bridge?

Wow, this is getting more complicated all the time. I'll go give it a try, but if I do not reply to any more notes you know why.....
 
Are there any places near you that sell cues? If so, I'd check them out and see if you can try some. Other than that, trying some friends or local players cues might be an option.
 
Here's my take on it:



Almost universally, all the cues today over $100 are going to be well built and not have any rattles when hitting the ball or other quality issues. So unless you buy a Walmart cue with slip on tips, you will be fine with the quality.



It doesn't matter how the cue "feels" in your hands. Whether the "feel" is the sound it makes at impact with the cue ball, or the vibration that travels to your grip hand, or the balance, etc. The reason it doesn't matter, is you will get used to whatever the "feel" is on the cue you buy in a few minutes of playing.



With that said, buy based on aesthetics and budget. Don't worry about returning it, because you will like how it plays within a few minutes of shooting balls:)



I'm 100% serious on this. Others might think I'm crazy, but this has been my experience playing for 25 years and going through many cues in that time. There was not a single cue I didn't like, or didn't play the same with.



All I can say is you are a lot less picky than I am. I think it absolutely matters how it feels. You get use to a cue in a few minutes? I wish this was the case for me. It's taken me weeks to get comfortable with my playing cue. It's plays wonderful but even then I wanted to reach for my older cues. I avoided it in order to get comfortable. You might be the minority of players that get use to a cue that quickly and personally I have played many cues I have no interest in.


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buy used on AZ from seller with lots of good itrader, sell if you don't like. It's what everybody does. Only way. Or buy a new name brand from a major online seller. Don't spend a lot for bling.
 
That's a funny take on my women with well manicured toes. LOL. Yes! Use her feet as a bridge. Might want to check the ruling on that though. I believe she will have to have one foot still on the ground. With that posture you might never get around to shooting your cue. Just keep lining your shot up till you are comfortable.


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That's a funny take on my women with well manicured toes. LOL. Yes! Use her feet as a bridge. Might want to check the ruling on that though. I believe she will have to have one foot still on the ground. With that posture you might never get around to shooting your cue. Just keep lining your shot up till you are comfortable.

Is this where one mentions the need to call your shot, and not to scratch?

Clearly there are depths to billiard techniques about which I had no clue.
 
Could be. Or one might opt to push out. Scratching or shooting into the wrong pocket without calling your shot is definitely a foul! HAHAHA!


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So, put rings on my wife's toes and point them... at the object ball? And use the toes as a bridge?

Wow, this is getting more complicated all the time. I'll go give it a try, but if I do not reply to any more notes you know why.....

I bet the beer bottle drill worked out the same way!
 
I thought I would post a brief update.

After reading and thinking and shooting and thinking and reading some more, I think it is a bit pointless at present to buy a true custom cue; I just do not know what I am looking for enough to invest, and the "collector" aspect is not of interest.

A good production cue, maybe. I've been looking around for places to try, and found a fair stack of cues at a Zing of all places, including a $500 McDermott (their price; have not compared, a G303A-G03), with a fancy laminated tip. Since the staff was leaving me alone, I hit with it a bit (no chalk) and...

OK, not saying anything bad about the cue, it's about me....

I can't tell the difference in it and the ones I have. The feel is the same (it was the same weight I was using), the sound on contact is the same (to my ears).

But it was quite pretty, nicely made. But the lack of any difference in feel makes me think I'm chasing a whim and not something terribly useful (ok, I kind of new that). The price wasn't so scary (especially as I assume I can buy it a lot cheaper, indeed they offered me 25% off) so much as being a difference without a distinction to my perception.

So I think I will keep playing a while until I get more of a feel for things, and can make a purchase more productive.

Unless I run across one I like the looks of so much I buy it just for looks.

I think in the meantime I may get a cue of mine changed to a soft tip (I think I have a hard now - a triangle, at least I think so), just to see how the feel changes - if the feel changes to me. That looks like a relatively low cost investment in trying to develop a better feel.

And I finally found some Masters chalk in Tan (it came with Silver Cup but everyone seems to push Masters makes a difference -- it does go on better, but not convinced about the difference yet). So learning and trying all advice.

Indeed on cues I'm not ignoring all the advice of what to buy; thank you all for the advice given. It is more recognizing that analysis paralysis is really a case of lack of "can't appreciate it yet" and working to gain some better feel for what I'm doing.
 
No joke, saw a guy tear through players at a tournament with a white and black Budweiser cue. I asked him about it, he said "this garbage? I sold my main player because I needed the money, I just had the the taper turned down a bit to make it a bit more ld". My other friend plays lights out with a viper. Here's me with my meucci and predator, way more $$$ in and much lower in the rankings. Lol
 
No joke, saw a guy tear through players at a tournament with a white and black Budweiser cue. I asked him about it, he said "this garbage? I sold my main player because I needed the money, I just had the the taper turned down a bit to make it a bit more ld". My other friend plays lights out with a viper. Here's me with my meucci and predator, way more $$$ in and much lower in the rankings. Lol

Maybe he has the famous Bob Dzuricky Budweiser hustler, referred to on here before (see another great hustler Bob posted in the following thread). http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=428405
 
I thought I would post a brief update.

After reading and thinking and shooting and thinking and reading some more, I think it is a bit pointless at present to buy a true custom cue; I just do not know what I am looking for enough to invest, and the "collector" aspect is not of interest.

A good production cue, maybe. I've been looking around for places to try, and found a fair stack of cues at a Zing of all places, including a $500 McDermott (their price; have not compared, a G303A-G03), with a fancy laminated tip. Since the staff was leaving me alone, I hit with it a bit (no chalk) and...

OK, not saying anything bad about the cue, it's about me....

I can't tell the difference in it and the ones I have. The feel is the same (it was the same weight I was using), the sound on contact is the same (to my ears).

But it was quite pretty, nicely made. But the lack of any difference in feel makes me think I'm chasing a whim and not something terribly useful (ok, I kind of new that). The price wasn't so scary (especially as I assume I can buy it a lot cheaper, indeed they offered me 25% off) so much as being a difference without a distinction to my perception.

So I think I will keep playing a while until I get more of a feel for things, and can make a purchase more productive.

Unless I run across one I like the looks of so much I buy it just for looks.

I think in the meantime I may get a cue of mine changed to a soft tip (I think I have a hard now - a triangle, at least I think so), just to see how the feel changes - if the feel changes to me. That looks like a relatively low cost investment in trying to develop a better feel.

And I finally found some Masters chalk in Tan (it came with Silver Cup but everyone seems to push Masters makes a difference -- it does go on better, but not convinced about the difference yet). So learning and trying all advice.

Indeed on cues I'm not ignoring all the advice of what to buy; thank you all for the advice given. It is more recognizing that analysis paralysis is really a case of lack of "can't appreciate it yet" and working to gain some better feel for what I'm doing.
Right now, Ozone Billiards has a FANTASTIC deal for a McDermott. $204.00 shipped for McD's July cue of the month, that's 34% off retail. It's a plain jane with a G Core shaft, helluva deal!
 
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