How does the poolhall(s) you play most at deal with bangers?

I have mellowed out quite a bit over the 22+ years I've been running our poolroom. I have just come to accept many things I didn't used to, as I can't afford to run off customers, and I realize we just don't have the kind of poolroom that has knowledgeable players. A very large percentage our our customers are families with kids and even adult players who have played very little, if ever. They don't really know better what is and what isn't cool to do in a poolroom, and what kind of actions can cause harm to the table/cloth. I feel it is my job to inform them of these things, but it must be handled very delicately, as a negative experience may result in them never coming back.

It's obviously much harder to bite my tongue just after I've spent $450 per table having our tables re-covered. Two things I absolutely will not tolerate - players who dig under the ball as their only clue as to how to execute a jump shot, and recreational players who elevate their cues to show off their attempt at a masse shot, when they are absolutely clueless as to what they are doing.

In either case, I will immediately approach the table and the player, and discreetly, but firmly, let them know we do not allow that here, that it will damage the cloth on the tables, and to please refrain from doing it. If it is a kid and they are with their parents, I will approach the parent directly to explain, and not reprimand their child right in front of them. Most people are very nice and understanding, as long as you treat them with respect and you don't make a scene and embarrass them.

However, you just can't please everybody. Recently, when we last had our tables recovered, a man and his teenage son who come in occasionally were wrapping up their play. In the process of getting the balls back in the tray. I looked down and the son was gouging under the object balls with his cue, trying to get them to jump up and land in the tray. After seeing he wasn't just going to do it a few times, but was continuing to do it numerous times until he had them all in the tray, which clearly would have done major damage to our new cloth, I flickered the pool table light to get their attention from the bar, and shook my head and simply said you can't do that. When he got to the counter with the balls to check out, the man was so upset feeling that I had completely embarrassed his son and and he imformed me that he would never be coming back. I tried to explain to him what his son was doing could damage the cloth, and his comment was that his son was doing it very easily and carefully, in order to not damage the cloth. Some people just don't get it. Anyway, I got my point across, but I did apologize to him if my actions had embarrassed his son, and they do still come in.

Sad when you have to apologize for other people doing dumb things.

As a regular in a few rooms I tend to keep an eye out for people that do bad things for the table, a lot of groups tend to treat the stuff like it is indestructible. Like when people start smashing balls around the table with their sticks or hands. I end up hoping one of them gets his fingers caught and maybe learns a lesson.
 
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I have mellowed out quite a bit over the 22+ years I've been running our poolroom. I have just come to accept many things I didn't used to, as I can't afford to run off customers, and I realize we just don't have the kind of poolroom that has knowledgeable players. A very large percentage our our customers are families with kids and even adult players who have played very little, if ever.

ChrisinNC, i've enjoyed playing in your room, been there a few times. wish it had been a lot more! your room has always been enjoyable. really liked the Connelly tables you had . BUT the Gabriels are spectacular. enjoyed the tables and the food. always a good time when i get up that way. well except one time in the dead of winter in a semi! lol.
 
Sad when you have to apologize for other people doing dumb things.

As a regular in a few rooms I tend to keep an eye out for people that do bad things for the table, a lot of groups tend to treat the stuff like it is indestructible. Like when people start smashing balls around the table with their sticks or hands. I end up hoping one of them gets his fingers caught and maybe learns a lesson.
Oh yeah, I forgot - that is one more example of an activity recreational players will resort to when they find that playing pool the correct way is no fun or too hard for them. That is also one more example of misuse of the tables that will warrant me flicking the table light, to get their attention that what they are doing will not be tolerated on our tables.
 
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No matter what they are doing I just ask them to please stop and inform them of my costs to recover a table.

The bigger issue we gave lately are people thinking they can bring in Emotional Support Animals. The law is clear...animals must perform a physical task, not be a nuisance and be house broken.
 
Two thoughts;

1. To the people that suggested you had nothing to apologize for, I agree but if the customers were clueless and not ill-intentioned and then genuinely upset, it is also up to Chris to determine if he wants to keep the customers. It is a business and I completely respect the decision to be the bigger man and apologize.

2. On the no-food while eating policy, this reminds me of a story. About a dozen years ago I was playing at my local pool hall on a Sunday. The tables had recently been re-clothed and looked beautiful. They had a small tournament and because it was a Sunday the kitchen was closed, but the owner ordered in pizza for the players. I was eating a tasty piece of greasy pizza and put it down and went to break, leaving a GIANT GREASE STAIN in the shape of my hand on the cloth. Now, I have a table at home and take great care of it, and do the same with tables at the pool hall, but somehow I just had a brain cramp and forgot to carefully clean my hands. It was remarkably stupid. Also remarkably, the owner didn't kill me and we are still friends to this day. And, from then on I always, always, always triple check my hands if I have been eating.

I was going to add something similar to your first point. Truth is, the situation had potential to be a teachable moment. It offered an opportunity to engage both the young man, as well as his father. This would of been a great time to get to know them, which ensures that they continue to be customers, and feel comfortable coming to your establishment.

From there, you also have the opportunity to educate them as to the potential outcome of their actions. Definitely no need to be abrasive. Which I believe is why the apology came out.

Truth is, if done correctly, you could not only give this young man a hobby, but something to do with his father regularly (if it weren't already a thing). It's not that an apology was warranted, or needed in any way. It was done out of respect to a situation that may not have come across exactly as one would have preferred.
 
I was going to add something similar to your first point. Truth is, the situation had potential to be a teachable moment. It offered an opportunity to engage both the young man, as well as his father. This would of been a great time to get to know them, which ensures that they continue to be customers, and feel comfortable coming to your establishment.

From there, you also have the opportunity to educate them as to the potential outcome of their actions. Definitely no need to be abrasive. Which I believe is why the apology came out.

Truth is, if done correctly, you could not only give this young man a hobby, but something to do with his father regularly (if it weren't already a thing). It's not that an apology was warranted, or needed in any way. It was done out of respect to a situation that may not have come across exactly as one would have preferred.

Well, this is good in theory, but what it comes down to is some people are just a s s holes, selfish, and don't give any thought whatsoever as to how their actions negatively affect others. So, in effect, when these people come into your business and start doing something stupid, it now becomes your job to "teach" them what their parents failed to when they were children. Respect for the property of others.

And a lot of adults don't like being "taught".. ANYTHING. No matter how "nice" you are about it. And will immediately respond with hostility if you make the attempt.

Short Bus Russ
 
Well, this is good in theory, but what it comes down to is some people are just a s s holes, selfish, and don't give any thought whatsoever as to how their actions negatively affect others. So, in effect, when these people come into your business and start doing something stupid, it now becomes your job to "teach" them what their parents failed to when they were children. Respect for the property of others.

And a lot of adults don't like being "taught".. ANYTHING. No matter how "nice" you are about it. And will immediately respond with hostility if you make the attempt.

Short Bus Russ

It's funny how most people these days confuse the basic principals of teaching with those of instruction. There is a difference between telling someone what to do, and showing someone how to do better.

By your theory, there would be no need for prisons, rehabilitation centers, and the like. After all, people are selfish jerks with no regard for the well being of others, and their property, who don't like being taught, and will simply lash out if you try to better them. Right?
 
The majority of our customers would NOT know to take it off. What exactly is it, where do you get them, and is it possible to play with them installed over a tip/ferrule on a house cue? Not a bad idea!

Ace or any well stocked hardware store carries thread protectors. 1/2" are 33 cents. Light gray color, not much longer than wide, barely notice them.

Never tried playing with one still on the cue, just use them to keep my nicer cases clean.
 
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