CTE is a "fractional" aiming system like the simple "3-angle" system pictured above, and works basically the same way. The "2-line visuals" and "pivots" added by CTE are actually the estimating and guessing part of the process made into "system steps".cookie man:
Or you can just use the center to edge line and not have to imagine anything. No estimating, no guessing, no worrying about the angle
Thanks, although you might be in the minority with that sentiment.Welcome back, PJ.
Well, my intent is to simply speak my mind as usual, so maybe just another brief visit.I'm hoping that you can hang around a while before your next "vacation"
Deep end? You must be thinking of another pool.-- although you're jumping right back in at the deep end of the pool.
I wish people would quit spouting off how one system is head-and-shoulders better than the others. Maybe to them it is but not so much to others.
All fractional aiming systems (even those with added steps like "pivots") have the same limitation: not enough defined "system cuts" to cover all shots. This thread is intended to reveal how fractional systems help the "estimating and guessing" part of the aiming process - and how they illustrate an aiming technique (using "reference" angles) that might be useful even to non-system users.what Patricks diagram shows is that for THAT aiming system there is some estimation involved. That diagram does not address any other aiming system.
I went to some trouble to explain clearly how I see fractional systems working, Neil. I think I and the forum in general deserve more than "is not!" in reply.You know not what you speak of Patrick. Time to go study before you try and teach others.
My first post explains clearly how I think fractional aiming systems make "estimation" easier. If you can offer a clear explanation of how you think they work without estimation, that would probably be useful information too.Your first sentence is wrong.
I just went to Super Billiards Expo. I watched several of Stevie Moore's matches. He most definitely did not use CTE at all when I was watching him. That much I can say for sure.
Who uses what system is irrelevant to this thread about the mechanics of aiming.I just went to Super Billiards Expo. I watched several of Stevie Moore's matches. He most definitely did not use CTE at all when I was watching him. That much I can say for sure.
I just went to Super Billiards Expo. I watched several of Stevie Moore's matches. He most definitely did not use CTE at all when I was watching him. That much I can say for sure.
i can use cte/pro1 and ask you to watch me as closely as possible and you would not see it. I also have stated many times on here, cte/pro1 is an evolving system, once you have mastered it completely you will just see the shot without using the lines and it just comes natural to you.
And this also holds true for ALL aiming systems.
Roger
Rather than just putting your fingers in your ears, describe a fractional system that's different in this respect.No, you went to some trouble to explain clearly how THAT fractional aiming system is working. You can not lump all fractional aiming systems into one neat little diagram and say they are all the same. They aren't. Not by a long shot.
I just went to Super Billiards Expo. I watched several of Stevie Moore's matches. He most definitely did not use CTE at all when I was watching him. That much I can say for sure.