How good were Cole Dickson and Mark Tadd?

couldnthinkof01 said:
You're downplaying the spot.
You say if he can get to the 7 he can get to the 9. That is speculation.
The spot is the spot. It is what both sides will agree to play.
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"You say if he can get to the 7 he can get to the 9. That is speculation."
I am calling on other forum members who are reading this nonsense. Knowing how strong Tadd and any pro plays, they are 99.9% guaranteed to get out if they get any shape on the 7 ball. I spoke to a good friend of Cole's who told me that Cole would rack a 6 ball rack. Break. Then place the cue with ball in hand. He told me Cole ran 96 of these six ball racks in a row. For you to say "That is speculation" is really telling us about what kind of a person you are. I am not calling you anything. You are telling all of us.

"The spot is the spot." Or "You're downplaying the spot." I want to hear how many readers would pay tuition money for this kind of insightful pool tutoring instruction?

"It is what both sides agree to play." Wow. Thanks for this great revelation.

"and it is not insignificant." Prove it is not insignificant by telling us exactly how this spot works.

You know darn well neither of you are answering. Is it even possible that neither of you really knows? Tell me and tell us what getting the 7 is then. Is it skip the 7 and 8 then go directly to the nine. There are only so many logical possibilities. I've probably already described the one that is meant here.

What is possessing you two to attempt to jerk me around like this? Why would you even waste your own time doing so? You should explain to the other forum members where you are coming from, what your intention here is with these sorts of evading and nonsensical replies.

I have met a few people that strike me as being very similar to both of you. This makes me wonder if either of you will come back now and say, "See. We're both right. You admitted that Cole never even got to the seven ball. Hah."

0 for 2 so far. Anyone else care to finally clarify what the 7 ball spot referred to here is exactly?
 
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jjohnson said:
"You say if he can get to the 7 he can get to the 9. That is speculation."
I am calling on other forum members who are reading this nonsense. Knowing how strong Tadd and any pro plays, they are 99.9% guaranteed to get out if they get any shape on the 7 ball. I spoke to a good friend of Cole's who told me that Cole would rack a 6 ball rack. Break. Then place the cue with ball in hand. He told me Cole ran 96 of these six ball racks in a row. For you to say "That is speculation" is really telling us about what kind of a person you are. I am not calling you anything. You are telling all of us.

"The spot is the spot." Or "You're downplaying the spot." I want to hear how many readers would pay tuition money for this kind of insightful pool tutoring instruction?

"It is what both sides agree to play." Wow. Thanks for this great revelation.

"and it is not insignificant." Prove it is not insignificant by telling us exactly how this spot works.

You know darn well neither of you are answering. Is it even possible that neither of you really knows? Tell me and tell us what getting the 7 is then. Is it skip the 7 and 8 then go directly to the nine. There are only so many logical possibilities. I've probably already described the one that is meant here.

What is possessing you two to attempt to jerk me around like this? Why would you even waste your own time doing so? You should explain to the other forum members where you are coming from, what your intention here is with these sorts of evading and nonsensical replies.

I have met a few people that strike me as being very similar to both of you. This makes me wonder if either of you will come back now and say, "See. We're both right. You admitted that Cole never even got to the seven ball. Hah."

0 for 2 so far. Anyone else care to finally clarify what the 7 ball spot referred to here is exactly?
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My understanding is the 7 is not wild.

Saw Mark a few years ago and he still looked like he could give the place we were in any color they wanted.
 
couldnthinkof01 said:
My understanding is the 7 is not wild.

Saw Mark a few years ago and he still looked like he could give the place we were in any color they wanted.
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Although not definitive, thanks for at least trying to answer, giving it your best shot. If this is so then it seems that it could be that it still wins the game when reached and pocketed but not "wild" before then. Or it could mean, with less probability, that the 7 & 8 are skipped and the spot allows going directly to the 9 after pocketing the 6. Or it could even mean, with even less likelihood, the 7 and out, meaning 7 8 & 9 are good or wild. Or it could mean any ball after the 6 when reached and pocketed would win but again, none wild before then. Or it could mean that if Tadd makes the seven and the pro gets another shot, the pro loses the spot and must make the 9 to win. So, does anyone one else care to nail this question down? Doesn't anyone know for sure? It has been stated that this spot is like ridiculously bold. Why then? I need an exact description of the spot so I understand how strong such a spot really is.

The idea is simple: if Tadd gets a shot he is out. And most probably, if the pro gets a shot they are out. So this is why I think top players don't consider this spot as we mere mortals do or if it is even a spot at all. It depends on exactly what the spot is. So is this spot claim really nothing more than just an allusion or figure of speech to suggest a ridiculously bold spot that we are supposed to believe or assume that expresses an over-the-top or extreme assessment of Tadd's pool prowess, to impress, again, we mere mortals. Did Tadd actually say this or say something to this effect in trying to make a game? I'm sure he must have made many offers depending on who it was made to. Is this just legend? Maybe we should not have taken this firsthand(?), secondhand, or hands and feet recollection seriously to begin with. I just asked a simple question and to look where this has gone could be described as a bit ridiculous. This is certainly impressive in its own right, and telling.
 
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maha said:
i have met people like you as well. enough said.
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I would imagine so. And it is good to hear you say this. Almost every individual in the entire world in this regard is exactly like me, wanting a clear and concise answer to rather simple questions. So, thank you. And I agree: "enough said."
 
jjohnson said:
Although not definitive, thanks for at least trying to answer, giving it your best shot. If this is so then it seems that it could be that it still wins the game when reached and pocketed but not "wild" before then. Or it could mean, with less probability, that the 7 & 8 are skipped and the spot allows going directly to the 9 after pocketing the 6. Or it could even mean, with even less likelihood, the 7 and out, meaning 7 8 & 9 are good or wild. Or it could mean any ball after the 6 when reached and pocketed would win but again, none wild before then. Or it could mean that if Tadd makes the seven and the pro gets another shot, the pro loses the spot and must make the 9 to win. So, does anyone one else care to nail this question down? Doesn't anyone know for sure? It has been stated that this spot is like ridiculously bold. Why then?
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I look at it like this... Money ball on the break can be negotiated as a win for the spotted player or spotted. If the non- spotted player makes it, the ball stays down or gets spotted. Most likely stays down. An early combo on the 7 is not a win because it's not wild. If the non- spotted player makes the 7 and not the 8 the other would still have to make the 8 to win.
 
Back in the day.....
It could be the Wild 7 or the Called 7 or the 7 and out. Different varieties were always negotiable and often the fun part of the banter at negotiation. A fun negotiation over a game spot comes to mind. In '85 at the Sands Reno tournament Efrens handlers with the briefcase of money were negotiable. When Ed Kelly played Efren, Cole was offered Ed get to 8 for a thousand in the race to 9. Cole asked for 7 at a thousand. They confered and said, "if you bet 2 thousand Ed gets to 7. If you bet 1 thousand Ed must get to 8. Cole made the bet at 2 and Ed was the only player to get to 7 against Efren in the tournament. 🤷‍♂️ Gotta be able to negotiate.
 
gregcantrall said:
Back in the day.....
It could be the Wild 7 or the Called 7 or the 7 and out. Different varieties were always negotiable and often the fun part of the banter at negotiation. A fun negotiation over a game spot comes to mind. In '85 at the Sands Reno tournament Efrens handlers with the briefcase of money were negotiable. When Ed Kelly played Efren, Cole was offered Ed get to 8 for a thousand in the race to 9. Cole asked for 7 at a thousand. They confered and said, "if you bet 2 thousand Ed gets to 7. If you bet 1 thousand Ed must get to 8. Cole made the bet at 2 and Ed was the only player to get to 7 against Efren in the tournament. 🤷‍♂️ Gotta be able to negotiate.
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The Tadd 7-ball spot sounds good. It is impressive which it is meant to be. But that is all it is. It is clear now that, simply, no one really knows what getting the 7 ball from Tadd really meant. So I am going to bale on this thread. Thanks all.
 
since jj has gone.

the 7 means its the exact same rules as the 9 ball. in other words it is a duplicate 9 ball. its wild if not stipulated

some, and most will say not on the break, or must be called. generally. those are the only two stipulations.
 
maha said:
since jj has gone.

the 7 means its the exact same rules as the 9 ball. in other words it is a duplicate 9 ball. its wild if not stipulated

some, and most will say not on the break, or must be called. generally. those are the only two stipulations.
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I replied below in quotes to KMRUNOUT's reply comment to the OP posted Jan 14, 2016. I sort of resurrected the thread from the last post in the thread dated Sep 14, 2023.

From Aug 9, 2024 at 4:49 PM, yesterday: "So if the person getting the spot makes the 7 ball or 9 ball at any time during the game they win? Because for a top player, this is not really a spot to be getting otherwise. If a top player can get to the 7, they can get to the 9. And if Tadd can get to the 7, he can get to the 9. Tadd must have had lots of action because having 2 money balls on the table and winner breaks is too good for any top player to turn down."

"you dont understand how spots work." Isn't that what you said?

Yeah. The joke must be on me. Perhaps you think you've just made a lot of friends. You can just wink wink at them. Now that you've come out.
 
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