How have the Southeast tournaments been doing?

bigsamho

bigsamho

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I started talking about SE Open events in another post and made start to think about how they have been doing in turn outs. I know that they dont come through Atlanta that much anymore. They used to come through Side Pockets, The Pool Room, Murphys Brass Rail, and Cues 2 combined about 10 times a year. I know there is one coming up next week at Cues but its the first one Ive seen in a while. I have read some tournament results on AZ but they dont list everyone. I believe it said they've been having around 30 to 40 players a tournament and most of the events are being held in Florida and Tennessee. A couple years ago they were having anwhere from 40 to 64+ in them sometimes.

Has the tour just went down hill or is Tommy just having a tough time scheduling events around Atlanta?
 
bigsamho said:
I started talking about SE Open events in another post and made start to think about how they have been doing in turn outs. I know that they dont come through Atlanta that much anymore. They used to come through Side Pockets, The Pool Room, Murphys Brass Rail, and Cues 2 combined about 10 times a year. I know there is one coming up next week at Cues but its the first one Ive seen in a while. I have read some tournament results on AZ but they dont list everyone. I believe it said they've been having around 30 to 40 players a tournament and most of the events are being held in Florida and Tennessee. A couple years ago they were having anwhere from 40 to 64+ in them sometimes.

Has the tour just went down hill or is Tommy just having a tough time scheduling events around Atlanta?
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If u look in the se tour u see that TK pay outs was nuts , no matter how many players came out . plus he was winnin all the tournments that came thru GA so That killed his tour .And gettin 10% off the top then winnin your event ..think about it ..How can u do that ..And how do u want people to play if the money is always funny ..I had many talks to him about that i saw no change ..
I use to play that tour .It was good for a little ..
 
Tommy Does Not Win All Of His Tournament's, He Wins Many Of Them. He Initially Designed The Tour So He Would Have Something To Play In...and It Is Open To Anyone. Next Week He Will Not Be Playing In The Tourney At Mr. Cues, Because Some Folks Complain That He Plays In Them...(probably People Who He Beat). Frankly, I Don't Care If Tommy Play's. As Far As The Money? He Get's $15. Per Player, And I Know He Would'nt Take Any More, Not One Nickle More!...
 
deadstroke32 said:
If u look in the se tour u see that TK pay outs was nuts , no matter how many players came out . plus he was winnin all the tournments that came thru GA so That killed his tour .And gettin 10% off the top then winnin your event ..think about it ..How can u do that ..And how do u want people to play if the money is always funny ..I had many talks to him about that i saw no change ..
I use to play that tour .It was good for a little ..
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Playing in the tournament is the only perk he gets. Beyond that I don't know anyone who would waste their time traveling around doing that tour for what in today's dollars keeps him at the poverty level. People should appreciate that he even does it.
 
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The SE Tour is Tommy's full time job. I don't expect him to work as hard as he does for nothing, so yes...he gets paid to run the tour. If he choses to play as well, it's an open tour so anyone should be allowed to play, Tommy included.
I can tell you one thing for certain. From my experience running a tour like that, he is not getting rich doing it. There were many times that after my gas and hotel room expenses, I spent more than I made to put on a tournament. Be thankful there are people out there willing to put up with all the crap from pool players to put on an event like that, for very little in return as far as money goes. Most of us that do run tournaments do it more because we enjoy the game.
Steve
 
deadstroke32 said:
If u look in the se tour u see that TK pay outs was nuts , no matter how many players came out . plus he was winnin all the tournments that came thru GA so That killed his tour .And gettin 10% off the top then winnin your event ..think about it ..How can u do that ..And how do u want people to play if the money is always funny ..I had many talks to him about that i saw no change ..
I use to play that tour .It was good for a little ..
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Yeah well I heard he had a bad payout during one tournament a couple years back in Athens. I dont remember if money was missing of what but the Brass Rail didnt allow Tommy back until I think when they were under new management. Im just wondering why all of these tournaments are away from the biggest city in the southeast? He is running so many tournaments in Seiverville, TN. He used to run a lot of tournaments around Atlanta each year.

Now as far as him winning in these tournaments, Ive seen him win a couple events. It just depends on how strong the field is. Usually if the field is strong he doesnt fair too well. He wins a lot of events in Florida though. Ive never made it down to Florida for a SE Open but I'd imagine that the strongest players dont show up for Tommy's events down there.
 
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Quit with the negative waves. .....and you heard........two years ago...
 
TK's SE Results from:
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showplayer2005.cfm?playernum=77

2005 Tournament Results:
$800.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$500.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$710.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$740.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$780.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$440.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$150.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$400.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$350.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$650.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop

2004 Tournament Results:
$100.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$150.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$150.00 13th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$$600.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$350.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$410.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$300.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$80.00 9th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$250.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$375.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$$550.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$730.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop

2003 Tournament Results:
$200.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 27
$110.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 28
$600.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Finale
$675.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 2
$800.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 3
$100.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 4
$150.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 5
$500.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 6
$600.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 7
$300.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 8
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 9
$400.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 10
$250.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 11
$105.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 12
$250.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 14
$220.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 16


Mj
 
I think Mr. Kennedy should should feel free to play in his events & to hell with the complaints of his participation in the tournament he runs. Who gives a damn if he wins his own tour stop? I certainly don't & neither should anyone else for that matter. His tour isn't being "killed" or is "dead" because of his participation, the schedule still shows quite a few stops whenever I've seen or read over one.

The statement that he shouldn't participate in any of his tournaments makes absolutely no sense & to be honest, it borders on complete idiocy in my opinion. Additionally, for someone to make the statement that he "wins all of them" in Georgia is quite ignorant as he doesn't. All someone needs to do is some research on here or another pool-themed website or newsgroup about his tournaments & they'll see that for themselves quite readily. If he does in fact win one of his tour stops, that means that he can put more bread on the table for his family & pay his bills more readily.

I've noticed that there are discounts for league, senior & handicapped players available on Mr. Kennedy's tour. Also, I've observed that there are monetary prizes given for the highest junior finisher & highest senior player who don't finish in the paying positions. I've also noted that he offered free entry fees to his events to the hurricane victims a few months ago. That is all very generous on his part & speaks well of who he is as a person in my opinion.

If you don't like the way Mr. Kennedy's or any other tournament is run or who is playing in it, then don't play in it! Save your money & start your own tour. Perhaps then you'll begin to understand that there is a lot of hard work, numerous expenses incurred & many miles driven in running a successful pool tour. I'm sure Mike Janis can attest to that & anyone else who assists these folks with their respective pool tours.

To conclude, I will say that the people who make these ridiculous complaints about Tommy Kennedy's participation in his events need to remember that the name of the tour he runs is the Southeast Open 9-ball Tour. It's an OPEN tour which means that ANYONE can participate in it. That includes Tommy Kennedy & anyone else regardless of their playing skill. If you want to keep him out of the winner's circle then get out from behind your home computer screen, spend more time honing your pool game, & quit whining about his playing in his tour stops on these internet sites.
 
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vader93490 said:
I think Mr. Kennedy should should feel free to play in his events & to hell with the complaints of his participation in the tournament he runs. Who gives a damn if he wins his own tour stop? I certainly don't & neither should anyone else for that matter. His tour isn't being "killed" or is "dead" because of his participation, the schedule still shows quite a few stops whenever I've seen or read over one.

The statement that he shouldn't participate in any of his tournaments makes absolutely no sense & to be honest, it borders on complete idiocy in my opinion. Additionally, for someone to make the statement that he "wins all of them" in Georgia is quite ignorant as he doesn't. All someone needs to do is some research on here or another pool-themed website or newsgroup about his tournaments & they'll see that for themselves quite readily. If he does in fact win one of his tour stops, that means that he can put more bread on the table for his family & pay his bills more readily.

I've noticed that there are discounts for league, senior & handicapped players available on Mr. Kennedy's tour. Also, I've observed that there are monetary prizes given for the highest junior finisher & highest senior player who don't finish in the paying positions. I've also noted that he offered free entry fees to his events to the hurricane victims a few months ago. That is all very generous on his part & speaks well of who he is as a person in my opinion.

If you don't like the way Mr. Kennedy's or any other tournament is run or who is playing in it, then don't play in it! Save your money & start your own tour. Perhaps then you'll begin to understand that there is a lot of hard work, numerous expenses incurred & many miles driven in running a successful pool tour. I'm sure Mike Janis can attest to that & anyone else who assists these folks with their respective pool tours.

To conclude, I will say that the people who make these ridiculous complaints about Tommy Kennedy's participation in his events need to remember is that the name of the tour he runs is the Southeast Open 9-ball Tour. It's an OPEN tour which means that ANYONE can participate in it. That includes Tommy Kennedy & anyone else regardless of their playing skill. If you want to keep him out of the winner's circle then get out from behind your home computer screen, spend more time honing your pool game, & quit whining about his playing in his tour stops on these internet sites.
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I like your points and I agree with them about Tommy playing in the tour. I think Tommy should play in everyone of his events. He is a great character.

The discussion is about his tours not coming around anymore though but I guess the thread has taken a new route now. Just like they always do lol.
 
MikeJanis said:
TK's SE Results from:
http://www.azbilliards.com/thepros/2000showplayer2005.cfm?playernum=77

2005 Tournament Results:
$800.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$500.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$710.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$740.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$780.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$440.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$150.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$400.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$350.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$650.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop

2004 Tournament Results:
$100.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$150.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$150.00 13th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$$600.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$450.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$350.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$410.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$300.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$80.00 9th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$250.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$375.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$$550.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop
$730.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop

2003 Tournament Results:
$200.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 27
$110.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 28
$600.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Finale
$675.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 2
$800.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 3
$100.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 4
$150.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 5
$500.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 6
$600.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 7
$300.00 3rd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 8
$700.00 1st place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 9
$400.00 2nd place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 10
$250.00 5th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 11
$105.00 7th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 12
$250.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 14
$220.00 4th place SE Open 9-Ball Tour Stop 16


Mj
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If you add up his total winnings it comes somewhere below what you may expect to make collecting aluminum cans on the side of the road. Even if he makes say another $1000 or so putting it on he still is at poverty level. I have no idea why he wastes his time. Then to see someone accusing him of underhandedness, well you just don't know what to say. This relates directly to my past post where I was criticized for referring to some posters who use he Internet and groups like this to attack people as jack-off's, this thread makes my point.
 
Tommy Kennedy works extremely hard to keep this Tour running. $15 per player is all he gets? PLEASE. He was in Miami last week, I believe there was 36 players total. Kennedy placed 4th with James Ladeira getting the $1k first prize. So Tommy made $540 for two days work. Minus gas, minus wear and tear on his car to travel, minus hotel, minus food and WHOA he is really raking it in.

This Saturday Tommy's next tournament is in Louisville Kentucky. Thats only 1100 miles and 16 hrs of driving. Then its off to Atlanta, another 400 miles away. I for one would never be able to do this, and Tommy has done it for years. His car must have a gazillion miles on it.
 
uwate said:
Tommy Kennedy works extremely hard to keep this Tour running. $15 per player is all he gets? PLEASE. He was in Miami last week, I believe there was 36 players total. Kennedy placed 4th with James Ladeira getting the $1k first prize. So Tommy made $540 for two days work. Minus gas, minus wear and tear on his car to travel, minus hotel, minus food and WHOA he is really raking it in.

This Saturday Tommy's next tournament is in Louisville Kentucky. Thats only 1100 miles and 16 hrs of driving. Then its off to Atlanta, another 400 miles away. I for one would never be able to do this, and Tommy has done it for years. His car must have a gazillion miles on it.
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I can vouch for the miles on cars. My 01 truck has almost 200K on it. I have also had several other vehicles that I put well over 200K miles on.

Mj
 
bigsamho said:
I like your points and I agree with them about Tommy playing in the tour. I think Tommy should play in everyone of his events. He is a great character.
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He certainly seems to be a good ambassador for the game. His dedication to his tour is certainly proof of that. In my opinion, such dedication is not a waste of time, to quote someone else. It shows your devotion & love for that which you like to do the most & it doesn't necessarily allude to having vast amounts of monetary riches in the end.

bigsamho said:
The discussion is about his tours not coming around anymore though but I guess the thread has taken a new route now. Just like they always do lol.
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That does seem to happen from time to time when someone tracks in some crap in on these internet forums or newsgroups when it pertains to a subject like this one. Anyway, to get back on the original subject regarding the Southeast Open Tour, if you would like to have Mr. Kennedy's tour stops around in your area again, I would suggest that you should talk to your local poolroom establishment owners & see if they'd be interested in having one. I'm sure there is some contact information readily available for them on the internet or on one of his schedules to view if they decide that they would like to have more information on hosting an event.
 
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