drivermaker
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Kevin said:
Humiliation will do just fine...especially when you made the insinuation that I must have been making up what I said regarding Grady's aiming systems since you had all of his tapes and never heard HIM mention it.
How important are aiming methods really?
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Humiliation will do just fine...especially when you made the insinuation that I must have been making up what I said regarding Grady's aiming systems since you had all of his tapes and never heard HIM mention it.
drivermaker said:
its amazing how frustrated people get when you dangle a carrot in front of them...............especially since you're not the only one with the info............LOL...........but i guess he thinks you're making the article up too, and you're the only one that knows where to find it...........LMAO
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drivermaker said:
I said I had many of his tapes, not all. Let me check....
Finer points of Pool, ... of Banking and Safety play, ... of One Pocket, Advanced Principles of Pool and Billiards, One Pocket "Finishing Touch", Straight Pool, and finally Secrets of Money Pool. That is 7 videos. Can't recall ever seeing a chance to purchase a 16 steps video. Who produced or sells it?
I've decided I don't need or deserve too much public humiliation on this, I said "to my knowledge" please and pretty please throughout the original post, and only ribbed you once with the "no Hal Houle funny business" line.
kevin said:
So. Do I get the P&B article, and info on the Grady tape?
drivermaker
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Kevin said:
Go to: http://www.poolbilliards.com Sixteen steps is sold directly by Grady
My intention isn't for humiliation...it's for VERIFICATION of what I said regarding Gradys' aiming methods. What I said, is what Grady said on 16 Steps. All I did was quote him, not fabricate it for my own viewpoint. If anybody on here wants to disparage or refute "aiming by the lights" or "aiming at the base" it just goes along with the general stupidity of those who view ANY aiming method as worthless and think all you have to do is hit a million balls for it to be automatic and you'll then be a world class pro. It doesn't work that way. The P&B article quotes many pros on their aiming systems, yet many on this forum have stated that what the pros said is either absolute bullshit or they don't really do what they say. UNBELIEVABLE!
I'm a man of my word. If you or anybody else comes on here with verification
that Grady uses "base aiming" or "by the lights aiming" from what he said on 16 Steps, I'll email the P&B article to you as stated. The archived threads on here only go back so far, therefore the article has been deleted. If you go to RSB in google groups and do a search on aiming, you can probably find it there. Jewett posted it on RSB around the same time. Happy hunting.....
Wouldn't it just be easier to ask Grady what type of "system" he uses?
Kevin said:
If you really want the P&B article send me a PM with your email and I would be happy to send it to you in pdf format. It has been a whlie since I read it, but IIRC I really didnt think there was much good information in it. Pretty much the same old theories. There is no great secret let out in the article
woody_968 said:If you really want the P&B article send me a PM with your email and I would be happy to send it to you in pdf format. It has been a whlie since I read it, but IIRC I really didnt think there was much good information in it. Pretty much the same old theories. There is no great secret let out in the article
damn, what a spoil sport........LOL.....you've got to be guy that every pool hall has that chime's in "you're playing that game??!!!" and ruins someones action...........LMAO
j/k
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vapoolplayer said:damn, what a spoil sport........LOL.....you've got to be guy that every pool hall has that chime's in "you're playing that game??!!!" and ruins someones action...........LMAO
j/k
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LOL,,,, na,,, not a spoil sport,,,, just get tired of some people on the boards always saying they have a better way to do this or that but never willing to share what they say they know. I dont know much, but Im willing to share
drivermaker
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woody_968 said:LOL,,,, na,,, not a spoil sport,,,, just get tired of some people on the boards always saying they have a better way to do this or that but never willing to share what they say they know. I dont know much, but Im willing to share
I think Marissayi is looking for a guy just like you...sharing, sensitive, giving, malleable. And most importantly, being able to live up to your name....
woody_968 said:LOL,,,, na,,, not a spoil sport,,,, just get tired of some people on the boards always saying they have a better way to do this or that but never willing to share what they say they know. I dont know much, but Im willing to share
the road to higher learning is only a phone call away..........damn, that sounds too much like an infomercial
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woody_968 said:So Ive heard,,, but when I said I would make that call then I was told I wasnt welcome to make it
well.......are you a leader or a follower?
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vapoolplayer said:well.......are you a leader or a follower?
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If you are meaning that I should lead by just making the call myself I could somewhat agree. But considering I havent been able to find a phone number this could mean dialing SEVERAL random numbers
woody_968 said:If you are meaning that I should lead by just making the call myself I could somewhat agree. But considering I havent been able to find a phone number this could mean dialing SEVERAL random numbers
i'll bet if you look real hard, you'll find the number.......LOL
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woody_968 said:If you really want the P&B article send me a PM with your email and I would be happy to send it to you in pdf format. It has been a whlie since I read it, but IIRC I really didnt think there was much good information in it. Pretty much the same old theories. There is no great secret let out in the article
You'll get the PM and my thanks, I'll get the article, and mention here to DM thanks for the info on how to get the tape.
Beyond that, I'm none too thrilled with the hoops some around here want you to jump through for woofsports.
drivermaker
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Kevin said:
Just part of what comes with the territory...get used to it. Some get through the hazing process, and some don't.
The P&B article is still on-line on the misc files page of the web site listed in my signature. It's about the 25th item down.Kevin said:
There have been several comments on this thread regarding people who are "anti aiming". And I think there are some who might have misunderstood the intent of my original post. Let me just state once more for the record that I believe everyone needs to learn proper fundamentals in order to become proficient at pool. That includes learning to aim using some sort of "system". In fact, I believe that it is beneficial to learn many different ways of aiming. It never hurts to have a few different ways of checking your aim. That's just more tools you will have in your arsenal. But, that having been said, my personal experience has been that I don't often find myself consciously using any "system" to aim. I might use one on combinations or on a very difficult game winning shot. Not very often, but in some instances. But on probably 95% of the shots I take, I don't. What I find is that when I play often enough, I begin to "see" where I need to hit the OB pretty decently and do not feel a need for utilizing any aiming "system". I do aim, just not with a "system". Now, of course, I am talking about cut shots here and not banks or kicks. I routinely use various "systems" to check my aim on these types of shots (although I believe you develop a feel for these shots as well).
The real intent of my post was that I believe once a trained pool player has played enough games, he/she begins to develop a sense of "feel" with regard to aiming. And, I also believe that when one of these trained players is having trouble with their aim, it is very often not where they are looking that is the problem, but rather some other flaw in their fundamentals- misalignment of the cue/body, faulty stroke, lack of concentration, and so on.
I don't think that just mindlessly pocketing balls will automatically make someone a pro, and I have never said that. Believe me, I have seen far too many self taught players in my time. All the practice in the world will not do you any good if you practice bad technique.
Thanks to everyone for their input. There has been quite a bit of very informative discussion here.
The real intent of my post was that I believe once a trained pool player has played enough games, he/she begins to develop a sense of "feel" with regard to aiming. And, I also believe that when one of these trained players is having trouble with their aim, it is very often not where they are looking that is the problem, but rather some other flaw in their fundamentals- misalignment of the cue/body, faulty stroke, lack of concentration, and so on.
I don't think that just mindlessly pocketing balls will automatically make someone a pro, and I have never said that. Believe me, I have seen far too many self taught players in my time. All the practice in the world will not do you any good if you practice bad technique.
Thanks to everyone for their input. There has been quite a bit of very informative discussion here.
JLW said:
i think you just answered your question........."how important are aiming systems"
answer: as important as everything else.
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