How Many Aiming Systems...

But you "know" it, right?



Lou Figueroa


Fair enough: 10

Ghost Ball
Double Distance (contact point overlap)
Shaft Edge to CP
Fractional Ball
Fractional Shaft
Lining Up Parallels
Cueball Edge
Shaft to CB Shadow
Buddy Hall Clock System
Shaft to Spot Behind OB


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Fair enough: 10

Ghost Ball
Double Distance (contact point overlap)
Shaft Edge to CP
Fractional Ball
Fractional Shaft
Lining Up Parallels
Cueball Edge
Shaft to CB Shadow
Buddy Hall Clock System
Shaft to Spot Behind OB

Buddy Hall Clock System isn't an aiming system. It's a way to apply and control spin for different angles after contact on the OB and rail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypc_peV3EWE
 
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So, how many aiming systems do you know and could capably teach to a neophyte?

I was thinking about this today and figure I probably know somewhere around a half dozen, maybe a few more.

Lou Figueroa

1. Name them. Otherwise it's like picking a number out of a hat and puffing it up

2. Of those 6 or more, which one or ones do you most pull from to use yourself

3. Can you and are you able to describe in detail exactly what you see and do as part of the aiming process? Don't say, "I just see the shot". Bull ca-ca! Can you teach it?

One pocket probably is more exacting than pocketing balls for all other games. You must aim to barely skin the OB or hit it fuller not so much to make a ball, but to be very precise to move the OB and especially the CB where it's needed to be hidden for the opponent.

How do you aim? What do you see between the two balls with one pocket?

Yeah, I know. I'm on IGNORE so this can't be seen or answered. Will somebody please quote me so it's posted?

Btw, I know 150. Wait, I think it's 175. No, 203. (easy to pull a number out of a hat or body orifice)
 
Fair enough: 10

Ghost Ball
Double Distance (contact point overlap)
Shaft Edge to CP
Fractional Ball
Fractional Shaft
Lining Up Parallels
Cueball Edge
Shaft to CB Shadow
Buddy Hall Clock System
Shaft to Spot Behind OB


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Thank you.

Lou Figueroa
 
1. Name them. Otherwise it's like picking a number out of a hat and puffing it up
2. Of those 6 or more, which one or ones do you most pull from to use yourself
3. Can you and are you able to describe in detail exactly what you see and do as part of the aiming process? Don't say, "I just see the shot". Bull ca-ca! Can you teach it?
One pocket probably is more exacting than pocketing balls for all other games. You must aim to barely skin the OB or hit it fuller not so much to make a ball, but to be very precise to move the OB and especially the CB where it's needed to be hidden for the opponent.
How do you aim? What do you see between the two balls with one pocket?
Yeah, I know. I'm on IGNORE so this can't be seen or answered. Will somebody please quote me so it's posted?
Btw, I know 150. Wait, I think it's 175. No, 203. (easy to pull a number out of a hat or body orifice)
You're not on ignore from me....looks like a fair post you just made.
There may be all kinds of aiming systems around...how could anyone know?
I was watching Jason Shaw's shooting hand on youtube, I was interested to see that he pivoted ever so slightly just before pulling the trigger. What does that mean? I do not know. I am not a pool shooting guru or instructor.
All a player needs is ONE aiming system or 'method'. One that really works over and over, is dependable, is proven, is not complicated with calculations, does not rely on 'ghost balls' that cannot be seen, and has no guesswork.
A system that will work consistently even if the shooter is tired, has weak eyes, is lazy, is drunk, is scared, or is troubled with any of the other nuisance emotions.
I think the one you and I and many others have selected to use, fits the bill and does all that a player could ask for. But.................the player has to learn it and then USE it.
Life goes on...
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You're not on ignore from me....looks like a fair post you just made.
There may be all kinds of aiming systems around...how could anyone know?
I was watching Jason Shaw's shooting hand on youtube, I was interested to see that he pivoted ever so slightly just before pulling the trigger. What does that mean? I do not know. I am not a pool shooting guru or instructor.
All a player needs is ONE aiming system or 'method'. One that really works over and over, is dependable, is proven, is not complicated with calculations, does not rely on 'ghost balls' that cannot be seen, and has no guesswork.
A system that will work consistently even if the shooter is tired, has weak eyes, is lazy, is drunk, is scared, or is troubled with any of the other nuisance emotions.
I think the one you and I and many others have selected to use, fits the bill and does all that a player could ask for. But.................the player has to learn it and then USE it.
Life goes on...
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bruce lee said
i paraphrase
i fear not the man that knows 100 kicks
but i fear the man that has practiced ONE KICK 100 times
the number is off but you get the gist
so i agree with you you only need one
i agree with all you say but there are people with practice CAN visualize the ghost ball ( almost all the old timers in the hall of fame ..just sayin )
so just because you dont use it or believe in it
dont diss it
jmho
icbw
 
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bruce lee said
i paraphrase
i fear not the man that knows 100 kicks
but i fear the man that has practiced ONE KICK 100 times
the number is off but you get the gist
so i agree with you you only need one
i agree with all you say but there are people with practice CAN visualize the ghost ball ( almost all the old timers in the hall of fame ..just sayin )
so just because you dont use it or believe in it
dont diss it
jmho
icbw


Just askin' how many do you know.

Lou Figueroa
simple stuff
 
Just askin' how many do you know.

Lou Figueroa
simple stuff

contact point to contact point
ghost ball
fractional
see system
base of ball (i think )
i know alittle about cte but not enough to teach it nor do i pretend to really understand it
yet acknowledge it is very usefull to those that have learned and mastered it
i know of stick aiming and double the distance
i have this book as a reference but have not memorized all the systems in it
aiming on the cutting edge by todd leveck
https://www.amazon.com/Aiming-Cutting-Edge-Precision-Billiards/dp/1541094492
 
contact point to contact point
ghost ball
fractional
see system
base of ball (i think )
i know alittle about cte but not enough to teach it nor do i pretend to really understand it
yet acknowledge it is very usefull to those that have learned and mastered it
i know of stick aiming and double the distance

i have this book as a reference but have not memorized all the systems in it
aiming on the cutting edge by todd leveck
https://www.amazon.com/Aiming-Cutting-Edge-Precision-Billiards/dp/1541094492

Glad to see you followed up on ordering Todd Leveck's book.

Fyi I did a quick count this morning and there are a minimum of 25 aiming systems in the book.
A couple that you mentioned above.
 
contact point to contact point
ghost ball
fractional
see system
base of ball (i think )
i know alittle about cte but not enough to teach it nor do i pretend to really understand it
yet acknowledge it is very usefull to those that have learned and mastered it
i know of stick aiming and double the distance
i have this book as a reference but have not memorized all the systems in it
aiming on the cutting edge by todd leveck
https://www.amazon.com/Aiming-Cutting-Edge-Precision-Billiards/dp/1541094492


OK, so like five. Thank you.

Lou Figueroa
 
But at least Larry named them. You have NOT. Why not?


I thought that was a bit self evident. The thread was created asking “how many”. Some opted to name them as an exercise of counting. Others opted to throw a number out without naming them. Both are reasonable answers given the thread title and opening post.


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I thought that was a bit self evident. The thread was created asking “how many”. Some opted to name them as an exercise of counting. Others opted to throw a number out without naming them. Both are reasonable answers given the thread title and opening post.

I understand what you're saying and how the original post was worded.

I thought it was a bit self evident that the self evident wasn't self evident when I posted questionable self evidence with 150, 175, or 203,

Regardless how little or how many aiming systems are listed, the number can be fudged by picking a number out of a hat.

I don't think any number given or system name thrown out can be properly taught unless the person has used them a good bit himself under the gun for a period of time. Especially by those who state they don't use an aiming system and never really have.

It's like this question: How many cars have you worked on? (what does that mean?)

My answer would be 5. It's a vague question and vague answer. But I did change the oil; changed wiper blades; took off a flat tire and replaced it with a spare; washed and waxed them; and put new license plates and tags on each of those cars.

I gave a number, told the truth, but did I know enough to really TEACH somebody something of real value and know the intricacies of thoroughly working on a car?
 
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I understand what you're saying and how the original post was worded.

I thought it was a bit self evident that the self evident wasn't self evident when I posted questionable self evidence with 150, 175, or 203,

Regardless how little or how many aiming systems are listed, the number can be fudged by picking a number out of a hat.

I don't think any number given or system name thrown out can be properly taught unless the person has used them a good bit himself under the gun. Especially by those who state they don't use an aiming system and never really have.


I don’t think anyone is treating this like an official record requiring any accuracy. It’s good enough for the honor system. If you say 150, everyone will probably just ignore that post. This is all just rough guess stuff for fun.


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I don’t think anyone is treating this like an official record requiring any accuracy. It’s good enough for the honor system. If you say 150, everyone will probably just ignore that post. This is all just rough guess stuff for fun.


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Yeah, like when somebody lists the Clock System as an aiming system. That entire post should be ignored as well.

Ain't no fun now or ever in the AIMING FORUM.
 
Yeah, like when somebody lists the Clock System as an aiming system. That entire post should be ignored as well.



Ain't no fun now or ever in the AIMING FORUM.


Unless perhaps there was a reason for including it and you’re continuing to be unnecessarily nit picky.

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Unless perhaps there was a reason for including it and you’re continuing to be unnecessarily nit picky.

I followed the posts thoroughly and know this was posted. If you knew better and he didn't, which was obvious, you shouldn't have listened.

Apparently you didn't know better.

So now it's time to completely disregard you.
 
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I understand what you're saying and how the original post was worded.
I thought it was a bit self evident that the self evident wasn't self evident when I posted questionable self evidence with 150, 175, or 203,
Regardless how little or how many aiming systems are listed, the number can be fudged by picking a number out of a hat.
I don't think any number given or system name thrown out can be properly taught unless the person has used them a good bit himself under the gun for a period of time. Especially by those who state they don't use an aiming system and never really have.
It's like this question: How many cars have you worked on? (what does that mean?)
My answer would be 5. It's a vague question and vague answer. But I did change the oil; changed wiper blades; took off a flat tire and replaced it with a spare; washed and waxed them; and put new license plates and tags on each of those cars.
I gave a number, told the truth, but did I know enough to really TEACH somebody something of real value and know the intricacies of thoroughly working on a car?[/
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Sir, your logic and reasoning are impeccable.
Not too shabby for a 'spider'......:thumbup::thumbup:
 
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