How many luman's and what color temp do you think is good for my table's light?

[tjlmbklr]

I installed 4 2x2 led panels in my basement's drop ceiling.The panels are color tunable and dimmable. They cost about $40 each. I use a meter to measure light levels, and use a dimmer switch to set the lights at 600 lumens at the table surface. I have the color temperature set to 4000K which I find to be the most comfortable setting.

Here are some helpful links:

WPA light specs: https://wpapool.com/equipment-specifications/#Lights
LED panels: https://www.lightup.com/2ftx2ft-wat...e-led-backlit-flat-panel-36-45w-dimmable.html
Light meter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018QLIVSC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Great info, thank you.

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[DynoDan]

I replaced the 8’ fluorescent bulbs in my ‘library’ fixture with frosted 6000k LEDs. Light spectrum initially too garish, but am used to it now, and appreciate the added intensity/definition. Tried to order some replacement 4000k LEDs, but two shipments were damaged/bent, so finally gave up (MIGHT try again, if I could ever find a supplier who provides bullet-proof packaging). The added intensity of the LEDs allowed me to raise the fixture a bit, but that also made the subtle shadow lines of the crosshatch ‘library’ diffuser more visible (not really a distraction issue when playing and it blocks overhead glare, but the lines look weird on video)..

 

[Junction]

I went into Griffs in Vegas and played under Littman lights which I assume were 5000-6000k. At first I didn't know if I'd be able to stay there playing because I get headaches from that kind of lighting, but I got used to it after a while. Mostly.

I'd want something dimmable and color temp adjustable, but I'm sure I'd end up in the 3500-4000k range for color temp. Does anyone know if the most recent Diamond table lights are adjustable without swapping out LED panels?

 

[iusedtoberich]

I went into Griffs in Vegas and played under Littman lights which I assume were 5000-6000k. At first I didn't know if I'd be able to stay there playing because I get headaches from that kind of lighting, but I got used to it after a while. Mostly.

I'd want something dimmable and color temp adjustable, but I'm sure I'd end up in the 3500-4000k range for color temp. Does anyone know if the most recent Diamond table lights are adjustable without swapping out LED panels?

They are. I just watched a 10 min video on them from Manning, linked below. It has a 3 position slider switch to adjust the color temp, and another 3 position slider switch to adjust the wattage. But it needs to be done by Diamond before the LED panels are slid into the wood frame. I bet they would accommodate you.

 

[sbrownn]

Just an FYI, there’s a number of free phone apps you can use for measuring Lumens at various parts of your table. For me the middle of the table is highest Lumens and it drops off at the corners. I used three 2x2 LED panels (home depot, about $40 each, 5000k) centered over a 9ft table, mounted about 5’8” from the floor. Comfortable color and plenty bright in the corners, high enough to keep from banging your head or cue into... happy with it. The Lumens will vary on the table surface depending on how high the light is hung. With more Lumens you can hang higher, but you don’t want it so high so you’re always seeing a blinding panel. Think about hanging at a height to get an arena effect with the table bright and the rest of the room dim, that’s a nice look.

Any pictures how you framed and hung the panels? Part numbers for the various hardware items (framing and hanging)?

 

[iusedtoberich]

Any pictures how you framed and hung the panels? Part numbers for the various hardware items (framing and hanging)?

Check out this thread from a few days ago. Lots of excellent info, custom made lights, and lumen ratings, etc.

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[Junction]

They are. I just watched a 10 min video on them from Manning, linked below. It has a 3 position slider switch to adjust the color temp, and another 3 position slider switch to adjust the wattage. But it needs to be done by Diamond before the LED panels are slid into the wood frame. I bet they would accommodate you.

Great info! Though it does look like you could cut out a hole in the top of the light to access the switches pretty easily. It's just a sheet of masonite on the top of the fixture.

 

[3kushn]

There's a BCA spec for lighting.

Prior to purchasing my light I asked the manufacturer to tell me/map the coverage for a 5x10 area.

Even though the map complied, I added down lights around the perimeter, attempting to minimize shadows.

 

[Flakeandrun]

I stuck with fluorescents the custom GCI light i built; (8) 4ft tubes, 5000K, 2600 Lumens, 90 CRI. I had the same bulbs in the custom light I built for my old AMF table. The lighting is great.

These pictures are like the biggest flex. So jealous haha

 

[maha]

i have 4 feet over the table, one light fixture from h.d. with two 4 foot t-8 led 5000k bulbs. not overly bright but just right for me. you dont need a lot of glare on the table.
each bulb says its 1800 lumens.

at my other house with large open room i have 3 100 watt led bulbs in ceiling light sockets. just fine.

 

[ChrisSjoblom]

I intend to build my tables light from scratch. It will of course be LED and will be a wood box like a Diamond light. I figured I like woodworking and I want a project with an opportunity to make it match my table.

What color temp do you think is good? I like 5000k or higher for a workshop, but am thinking lower like 4000k might be best for a warmer homely feel for the table. Also, how many luman's do you think is needed for a pro-8' table? 8000-10,000 I would think would be good.

Any idea how many luman's the Diamond lights are?

Thanks im advance.

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The brighter the better, and whatever color temp that makes the 5-ball look orange.

 

[eastcoast_chris]

Here is what I built. 6 - 4000k, 5000 lumens shop lights - 30000 lumens total. Very even light and more than bright enough.
Under $200 total for the entire build.

 

[8cree]

Here is what I built. 6 - 4000k, 5000 lumens shop lights - 30000 lumens total. Very even light and more than bright enough.
Under $200 total for the entire build.

Nice build! It's incredibly nice for under $200. Did you have the lumber already or the lights? Lol... na, but for real, do you have some more pics of that bad boy? I'd like to see them.

 

[eastcoast_chris]

Nice build! It's incredibly nice for under $200. Did you have the lumber already or the lights? Lol... na, but for real, do you have some more pics of that bad boy? I'd like to see them.

I'll dig some up. It is 6 lights (on special about $25 a piece). 2, 10' 2"x4", a sheet of 1/8 plywood like material. And some black paint.

I have a good workshop / tools, so there was nothing difficult about the build. Just took some time. There are also some eyelets and thin cables that it is hung by, that I already had.

 

[tim913]

Not sure it will help you but when I converted my Diamond light to LED I used these, 4 8 foot tubes over a 9 footer.
KT-LED43T8-96G-850-D, as recommended by someone who does a lot of light conversions.
5000K

 

[rexus31]

Not sure it will help you but when I converted my Diamond light to LED I used these, 4 8 foot tubes over a 9 footer.
KT-LED43T8-96G-850-D, as recommended by someone who does a lot of light conversions.
5000K

20,000+ Lumens is ideal for pool, IMO. Your fixture is putting out 22,000. Very nice! The CRI is a little low with those bulbs (90 or above would be nice) but I'm sure it puts out plenty of bright light.