How much is my older Uni Loc Dale Perry DP custom cue worth?

Its not that you hurt your chances Justin. There are a ton of Dale perry threads in the archive. The subject gets brought up every so often.

I would say that just about every member here knows what they are worth, or what they may be willing to pay for one.

Depends on what you are asking for it. There are many new players here that are looking for their first custom or just a cue. If it is priced right and it catches someones eye
you have as good a chance of selling as anyone.

Ebay is a good bet but of the people that buy Dale's cues, they also know what they can be had for. Unless you can prove that it was one of his early ones that were made a bit better and are worth a bit more, people will go for cheaper and newer in most cases.

Dale doesn't seem to have a problem getting rid of his cues.

When several auctions end, he replaces them with new stock and they also go at the end of that auction.

Ivory inlays. Gotta be careful when advertising that on the Bay tho.
 
Well, I was really unhappy with the shafts that I received from DP (that came with the 3 cues that I have purchased from DP in the past). The taper was always really bad. The taper would get thicker much too fast, but I have learned that a lot of players like that type of taper. I always liked a nice pro taper in my shafts, and the shafts I received from DP were far from being a pro taper. I was just really unhappy, and mailed every cue I received from him back the next day for a refund. These 3 purchases on ebay were years apart by the way. Maybe I should have spent a little money to have the shafts re tapered, and then tried out the cues, but I knew if I did that, then I would not be able to get a refund. The DP cue I have just seems like a much higher quality cue then any other DP cue that I have had in the past. I do not like the grey stain either, but I still think it is a good quality cue, and worth more then what the AZ members have noted so far. Why should the fact that DP started mass producing his cues ruin the value of the well made customs that he made before he started selling on ebay? What if Pechauer or Jacoby (for example) started auctioning cues on ebay, and made like 20 cues a week to be auctioned off on ebay (with no reserve)? Would that kill the market value of all of the cues they ever made? I think not. They were just examples. What if any other cue maker started doing what DP did. Would that ruin the value of any other cue that they made before they started doing that? Is DP that only cue maker to have ever ruined his rep by doing this type of thing?

Blue Hog ridr said:
Hmmm, thats strange re the shafts. I am happy with the 3 shafts that we have.

I did purchase, as an extra, one of his DPR shafts that you can get for an extra $100 with an auction. It was decent too. I sold it to a guy on AZ for $90 a couple of years ago when I was planning on selling mine.

As an after thought, I wish that I hadn't done that. I decided to keep mine. One, I paid approx $130 for and my wife bought almost a matching one, (different wood), for a present.

I don't use mine any longer. I do pull them out and play with them on occasion.

For the little price that I got them for, it isn't worth my while to sell. Someone will inherit a couple of decent cues at some point.
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The fact that the inlays are ivory should be proof enough that the cue is one of his older ones, because he has always used Ivory micarta (I think) in even his nicest cues that he has auctioned off on ebay. I also think that every ebay cue that he has ever auctioned off on ebay has had his signature in the forearm, and the DP cue I have does not. It only has the DP logo in the butt. I also do not think he ever used the Uni Loc joint in any of his ebay auctions. I think that he has always used the Radial joint for his ebay cues. I might be wrong about that, but I am sure that he has put his signature (which is probably not hand signed) in all of the ebay cues he has ever auctioned off.

Blue Hog ridr said:
Its not that you hurt your chances Justin. There are a ton of Dale perry threads in the archive. The subject gets brought up every so often.

I would say that just about every member here knows what they are worth, or what they may be willing to pay for one.

Depends on what you are asking for it. There are many new players here that are looking for their first custom or just a cue. If it is priced right and it catches someones eye
you have as good a chance of selling as anyone.

Ebay is a good bet but of the people that buy Dale's cues, they also know what they can be had for. Unless you can prove that it was one of his early ones that were made a bit better and are worth a bit more, people will go for cheaper and newer in most cases.

Dale doesn't seem to have a problem getting rid of his cues.

When several auctions end, he replaces them with new stock and they also go at the end of that auction.

Ivory inlays. Gotta be careful when advertising that on the Bay tho.
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The cue you have might not be that old. It's not one of a kind either. This cue might be one of his catalog cues that he was selling through distributors. These cues were still being sold as late as 2009 with the uni-loc.

Just because it has a uni-loc joint does not mean it is old.

And the shaft taper you didn't like in 2005...well you were supposed to let him know the weight of the cue, shaft taper and diameter. It was always stated in his Ebay listings that you had a choice. If you didn't specify, then he just sent you a stock shaft without changing it.

I'm one of Dale Perry's biggest fans. I have about 50 Dale Perry cues put away in my wood pile. Haven't checked any out in a few years...but I still have them.
 
Thanks for the info. Dale always requests the tip size from his customers from ebay, but not the length of the taper. He does not offer a really nice long taper as an option. I have a bad feeling that even if I had asked him for a really nice long taper on the shafts, then I would have still been unhappy (because he has always been so busy with other ebay cues in his shop, that he would not care to take the time to make 1 customer happy with a really nice good quality shaft with a nice long taper on it). Even the $350 cue I got from him had the worst tapers that I have ever felt on a shaft. The 1st cue I ever got from him was a sneaky pete, and it was at the time the worst hitting cue I ever played with (in my opinion). The butt of the cue cracked on me the very 1st night I took it out to shoot with it, and I am always very careful with my cues, so the crack was not my fault. Something about his ebay cues just seem very generic, and low quality, and even those junkie cues sell for a decent amount on the used market. And all you guys are telling me that my older well made DP is just as worthless as any other cue he has ever made to this day. Just does not make any sense to me. I am sure that the DP cue I have is far better quality then any so called "one of a kind" ebay cue that he has ever auctioned off in the past (that has his signature in the forearm). By the way, I am betting that he does not personally sign each of his ebay cues before they are finished. I may be wrong, and it is just a guess. My only point is that I think that the DP cue I have is in a different league then any ebay cue that he has ever made (based on my experience of the 3 ebay DP cues that I had in the past).

poolguy4u said:
The cue you have might not be that old. It's not one of a kind either. This cue might be one of his catalog cues that he was selling through distributors. These cues were still being sold as late as 2009 with the uni-loc.

Just because it has a uni-loc joint does not mean it is old.

And the shaft taper you didn't like in 2005...well you were supposed to let him know the weight of the cue, shaft taper and diameter. It was always stated in his Ebay listings that you had a choice. If you didn't specify, then he just sent you a stock shaft without changing it.

I'm one of Dale Perry's biggest fans. I have about 50 Dale Perry cues put away in my wood pile. Haven't checked any out in a few years...but I still have them.
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Well, you seem to be an expert on DP cues since you have purchased so many in the past. Just because the cue I have is not one of a kind, does that mean that is not any better quality then the really cheaply made cues he mass produces to auction off on ebay? Even those cues sell for a decent amount on the used market, but my DP cue is only worth about the same as any other used DP cue based on your opinion about the value of my DP cue. Really makes no sense to me why all of you are comparing the value of his poorly made cues to the value of my DP cue that I really believe to be of much higher quality, and basically saying that all of his older and newer cues are all worth about the same. There is no comparison between his ebay cues, and his well made cues. The only similarity that I can see is the rounded cnc inlays.

poolguy4u said:
The cue you have might not be that old. It's not one of a kind either. This cue might be one of his catalog cues that he was selling through distributors. These cues were still being sold as late as 2009 with the uni-loc.

Just because it has a uni-loc joint does not mean it is old.

And the shaft taper you didn't like in 2005...well you were supposed to let him know the weight of the cue, shaft taper and diameter. It was always stated in his Ebay listings that you had a choice. If you didn't specify, then he just sent you a stock shaft without changing it.

I'm one of Dale Perry's biggest fans. I have about 50 Dale Perry cues put away in my wood pile. Haven't checked any out in a few years...but I still have them.
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You have had several very knowledgeable members tell you the cue is worth between 70 and 150.
These members all know that the old cues used to sell for much more. I know you want your cue
to be worth much more then $150 but it simply is not. I have owned and sold several Dale Perry cues
and hundreds upon hundreds of other cues, production and custom.

Your cue is worth $150 on a good day, less then $100 on an bad.

gr. Dave
 
DP cues

What has brought down the value is that he flooded the market with them. And the low quality perception that people have about the cues. And you keep saying ivory inlays. They could be something else. There are materials that can fool a lot of people into thinking that it is ivory.

Another example of someone flooding the market with something is general motors with the84 corvette . They didn't make an 83 so they killed the market with tons of 84 model cars. And they were junk. So as a result even though it was a Corvette, you can still get one for next to nothing now. And pretty much every corvette that body style gets that stigma. Trust me I know. I have sold cars for over ten years now.

Same thing with these cues. You may have a really good quality well made cue for sure. But the fact that it looks like his cheaper cues with things like the CNC points and strained forearm automatically gives its that stigma. Take what these knowledgeable membershere are telling you and learn from it. These folks know their cues and if so many are saying it is worth 100-125 then they are probably right.
 
Justin, there is hope.
Although I did say $100, $150 on a good day, I've mentioned on previous Dp threads that I actually witnessed a kid paying $1060 for one.
The cue had a buzz, but it was a 1 of 1 with a certificate of authenticity and three shafts.
At least your cue doesn't have a buzz, so maybe picking up a few extra shafts will increase the value back up to the 2003 price levels><:thumbup:
 
justinb386 said:
The fact that the inlays are ivory should be proof enough that the cue is one of his older ones, because he has always used Ivory micarta (I think) in even his nicest cues that he has auctioned off on ebay. .
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Ivory micarta ??? Ummmm, you sure you know what you have there ?
 
Actually...I think the quality of a Dale Perry built cue is great.
I would never say the Ebay cues are poor quality.

He doesn't even make that many cues compared to Joss, Meucci, Schon and the rest of the cue manufacturers.

I've had issues with almost all cue manufacturers with defects or flaws.
So far, all my Dale Perry Cues have been great. Only one issue and he sent me a couple new shafts...no charge and I got to keep the one that wasn't so good.

Real nice to see him make the new wrapless cues!:thumbup:


A few years I chalked up a Dale Perry Cue and didn't lose a game for three months.
It was a great hitting cue.

Around six years ago I lost my job and Dale Perry offered to make me my own line of Dale Perry Cues to help me out. Of course I declined because I'm stubborn, hard headed, and stupid.:banghead:
 
It was at SBE three years ago, I was at the DP booth with a buddy who was looking to buy a cue. Another guy comes up to Dale with a broken cue, fractured at the joint, butt side. He wants to know what he will do about this cue. DP goes into a rant blaming that photograph of Charlie Williams breaking and flexing a cue on the table. It's in his column in Pool & Billiards. He blamed the customer for abusing the cue.

Having done cabinetmaking many years ago I can see the fracture was due to twisted grain at the joint end and should have never been used. We and a number of others walked away. You cannot throw a hissy fit at SBE, blaming a photograph for poor quality control and not expect other's to hear about it.

I have no gripe with Uni Loc joints either. I have a Predator SP with one and think it's a fine cue. But, I would not buy a DP because I have met the man behind the product.
 
I guess if you think its worth more and it plays good then you should just keep it. A cue know matter who makes it is only worth what you can get out of it or someone else will buy it for and if you can get the most out of it buy keeping it and playing with it then do so.
 
I had a dp cue back in the day [beautiful cue 8 pts, coco, birdseye, rings etc] I paid roughly $1000 back in the 90's, i shot with it for 10 years before selling it for $750....
Then DP destroyed his name by flooding market with less than great quality. A lot of people got burnt or at least they feel as if they got burnt. I was fortunate enough to have sold mine before the value took a huge hit. My old stick is still around my neighbor hood and recently got sold for $100 with 2-shafts. The old ones and even some of his new ones "could" be a great quality, but his reputation is destroyed. All kidding aside put a new butt cap on it and double the value to $200.
 
First of allI shoot with a Dale Perry cue.

With that said his cues have very little monetary value. But.... That doesn't mean they don't play good. I love the way mine hits. It suits me just fine. Sure you over paid... But who cares. If you like it and like the way it plays, that's all that matters. Hell I just paid 4k an acre for land that's only worth 1.5k. But it was the exact piece of property I wanted. I know I over paid and knew it before I paid for it. But I don't care. I got what I wanted.
 
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The issue is that the cue looks exactly like the cues sold on ebay, with the exception of the joint. At one time they were expensive cues, but are no longer. A cue is worth what you can get for it, and many things influence the value. Truth is the cheap ebay cues play well. Truth is, a lot of people don't like the uni-loc joint. Could you get 200, yes. Could you get more, yes. Do you need to find the right person, yes.

Around here, thats not going to be an easy task. I have seen more ornate uni-loc joint Dale Perrys go for less. If you like it, thats all that matters. If its an investment, get what you can for it and move on.
 
justinb386 said:
So just because DP started building junky cues, any of his older quality custom cues are worth just as little as any used DP cue that has been made up until today? That just makes no sense to me. If what you all are saying is true about the value of the cue, then I guess I was very foolish for paying $200 for it very recently.
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A guy here flips the DP ebay cues and sold one to my buddy for 700. Its hideous. All I told him was nice cue.

The old cues are worth no more than the new ones.
 
takeitdown said:
A guy here flips the DP ebay cues and sold one to my buddy for 700. Its hideous. All I told him was nice cue.

The old cues are worth no more than the new ones.
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If a guy is blatantly taking advantage of members here, why doesn't someone say something? Do you have a link? Is he removing the logo? How is it even possible.
 
jmizzo said:
If a guy is blatantly taking advantage of members here, why doesn't someone say something? Do you have a link? Is he removing the logo? How is it even possible.
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Maybe he meant here locally, or here at my pool hall, not here on AZ.
 
Yeah, here in town

Cheesy brown leather lizard wrap, turquoise diamonds, horrible cnc points. Its a 130 ebay special, hits worse than a 30 dollar Sportcraft.
 
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