He's always argumentative and everyone knows it. Don't take it to heart.
How much will I need to adjust?
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He's always argumentative and everyone knows it. Don't take it to heart.
The drawing applies for any angle of the cue.
What gives you the idea we're in a pissing match? Chill out - we're just talking here.
pj
chgo
Well it would stand to reason that if the area a cue is making contact on the cueball is larger it will transfer more energy from the cue to the ball.
Of course it could also be that with a wider contact patch the same energy is being transferred to a wider area but then how would that effect spin and power transfer?
I didn't notice much of a learning curve. My 11.75 xpro was not nearly as stiff as the standard 13 mm shaft I had on my cue. That took about a month before I stopped noticing the difference in feel.
I think the same force is just spread over a slightly larger area, like you said in your second paragraph. And I don't think it changes anything - we can probably think of it like it's a pinpoint contact at the center of the chalk mark.
pj
chgo
I don't know the exact science behind thicker vs. thinner shafts. All I know is myself, my wife and others I have met find thicker shafts more forgiving.
Although I agree with the science explanation in your diagram, we are not robots with perfect strokes. Especially beginners like myself and my wife. Maybe the thinner shaft is easier to unintentionally offset/pivot during the stroke ?
Lots of players say so, but there's no reason to believe it's anything but an impression.
I doubt that - stroke errors are caused by the back hand, not the bridge.
What differences do you see when using a thinner shaft?
pj
chgo
Differences I see is I miss more and unintentionally spin more. It's not just an impression and it's not just me. I knew nothing about shafts and diameters. I just noticed a change in results.
Errors in stroke, bridge, setting up, hitting center CB, etc.. I could be wrong, but something is happening that is related to shaft diameter. At this point, I don't really care what it is.
I thought I read about a general consensus that the Predator 314 was more forgiving and easier to play with than the Z2 ?
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I just saw this here while I was searching.
Earlier this week I just received my carolina custom with an OB classic pro shaft.
Previously I played with my tuned dufferin. It was 11.5mm with a micarta ferrule and a conical taper, so I figured it was fairly low deflection.
To give you an idea of my skill level, I'm an APA 4 (just boosted). I've played pool for about 1.5 years total time (about 20 hours a week), with a few months break here and there. I've generally never had a cue for more than a few months (except the dufferin), so I never really had extensive time with LD shafts. I had a 314-2, Tiger X, and an OB2, but flipped those before I could get a good feel. Plus I was a rookie moreso then.
It's only been day 4, so I'm having a hard time adjusting. Practicing on the work table, where I can run 4-5 balls with the 13mm house cue (or my duffy), but barely 2-3 with this LD shaft. I noticed the very few times when I ran 4-5, I had to slow my stroke and center ball it. Then my old habits come back
Hopefully it'll pan out well (or I may just break and get a 13mm shaft anyway).
Just thought I'd share.
Earlier this week I just received my carolina custom with an OB classic pro shaft.
Previously I played with my tuned dufferin. It was 11.5mm with a micarta ferrule and a conical taper, so I figured it was fairly low deflection.
To give you an idea of my skill level, I'm an APA 4 (just boosted). I've played pool for about 1.5 years total time (about 20 hours a week), with a few months break here and there. I've generally never had a cue for more than a few months (except the dufferin), so I never really had extensive time with LD shafts. I had a 314-2, Tiger X, and an OB2, but flipped those before I could get a good feel. Plus I was a rookie moreso then.
It's only been day 4, so I'm having a hard time adjusting. Practicing on the work table, where I can run 4-5 balls with the 13mm house cue (or my duffy), but barely 2-3 with this LD shaft. I noticed the very few times when I ran 4-5, I had to slow my stroke and center ball it. Then my old habits come back
Hopefully it'll pan out well (or I may just break and get a 13mm shaft anyway).
Just thought I'd share.
If your stroke is good, which I believe yours is, it should not be much of a problem. However, if you are a center ball guy then any lack of accuracy will be a bit magnified in the error. But... if you are an off center (english) knid of guy your abilities will be enhanced, but will take some getting use to.
Best Wishes,
Rick
Best Wishes,
Rick
A second thought about this - there is a reason a thinner shaft might be less forgiving of stroke errors: a thinner shaft is likely to be lower squirt and lower squirt cues might overcompensate more for squirt on stroke errors.
pj
chgo