How to become a better player

holidayinn47

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I am looking to become an elite player whether it takes drills or whatever it may be. I do drills from time to time but looking for new ones. I am looking for some insight from anyone. Is there anything i can do in order to become a better pool player?

Appreciate it in advance
 
play with better players and pay a close attention to what they are doing. Target Pool is a good tool as well
 
I understand your desire, and I am making the same effort for myself. The thing that I have done this summer is to create a personal training workbook that for me I will work through to the end of the year. In my workbook I pulled material from all the key books that I have in my own pool libary. I pulled material from my Phil Capelle books, The Pro Skill Drill volumes that I have, and The Pro Books by Bob Hemming. I analyzed for myself those skill areas that I felt I still needed to greatly improve upon, and at the same time still strengthen and refine my strongest skill sets. I organized my practice material into a 3 inch binder and broke it down into 31 days of specific subject material. Mind you this is material to cover for 5 months of practice.

I also chose to incorporate the PAT 1 testing materials into my 31 day system.

Bear in mind though that no matter what material you choose to practice and work on, the practice itself isnt going to be sufficient without some means of measuring your own performance from one practice session to another. Record keeping is a key element to my own training regimen. Each day that I am in the pool room, I have my selected set of drill and practice material to work that day. But I keep a log of how successful my practice efforts are from drill to drill.

Every drill is different, and every drill involves a set number of balls that your trying to successfully pocket. Most players do a drill and they may do it for 5 minutes, 10 minutes, maybe more. But how many attempts were actually completed? And how many balls were succesfully pocketed in the practice effort? By what percentage of success did you achieve in balls pocketed versus your failed shots? If you did the same drill last week, and again this week, what percentage improvement did you record if any between the 2 attempts?

Gurantee that nearly every player that practices drills cannot answer any of those kinds of questions regarding their drill practice. Because no one makes an effort to 1) set a define number of attempts on a given drill, 2) caluclate the maximum number of makeable balls in a set number of attempts on the drill, and 3) keep track of balls pocketed on each drill attempt for the total number of defined attempts to be made, and thus be able to calculate a percentage of success achieved. Thats what it takes to know how you are performing.

By keeping a record of performance during each practice session and for each drill your practice by, you give yourself the means of knowing what your performance is. And when you come back around to make another attempt on a drill that you have done before, you now have the means to set a goal so that you can attempt to improve upon a previous known level of performance.

If your goal is to become an elite athlete in the sport of pocket billiards, then you have to begin to adopt an attitude and discipline regarding your training, that is no different than the the same attitude and discipline that any other top athlete would take on in any other professional sport. And if you look at the training methods used by other athletes in other sports, you will find that a key element of those training methods is the recording of personal peformance, for whatever is appropriate for those sports. That means defining some basic forms for the record keeping of your practice efforts.

When I do a drill, and depending on what source the drill is coming from, I will generally do 10 attempts on a drill. But on occasion, particualarly for PAT 1 series testing material, I will practice those particular shots as many as 25, 50 or 100 times. And I keep a record of performance for each shot attempt made. When you start this kind of record keeping habit, you will find it hard to have to write in your log book a low level of performance. But you have to be honest in the record keeping. And know that down the road your numbers will go up. Its been frustrating having to write in some low number, like a 1, 2, 3, or heaven forbid a ZERO. But its going to happen, and you have to accept that it will occur, and occur alot at the begining of the process.

I personally am now just entering the 2nd month of my 5 month training regimen that I created for myself. As I entered the 2nd week of the 1st month I began to get a feeling that some small improvement was taking place in my overall game. And a couple of my playing buddies started to comment on seeing some improvement. At the end of the 1st month , I started to see more success in my placing in the money in the local tournaments, and hearing more complaints about my overall improvement from some of my local competitors. So I know I am making an impact on my game. That success has helped to reinforce my committment to my training process. And that's what its going to take, a committment of discipline to your training.

It does not mean you have to spend 8 hours a day at the table. But it does require at least 1 to 2 hours a day committed to practicing under an organized structured system of practice and record keeping. Do it long enough and you will see some serious improvement in your game.

I will also tell you that if you compete in a regular schedule of local tournaments, and play in any leagues, then use that competitive schedule to define a set of competitive goals that you want to achieve. For myself I have a dozen different competitive goals for the last half of this year. I have a certain number of tournament vicotories I want to achieve by the end of the year, I have a percentage of win/loss I am wanting to achieve in my BCA league, and some other goals as well. But those goals help to foster another level of committment to the playing effort, as I work on my daily training regimen.

So if your serious about wanting to improve your game, then make the effort to analyze the areas you need to both strengthen and refine, organize some appropriate instructional material, commit to a schedule of practice, and be discipline in your record keeping efforts each day that you do your practice.
Apply that kind of commitment and discipline to your practice efforts and you will see the improvement that your seeking in time.

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
 
holidayinn47 said:
I am looking to become an elite player whether it takes drills or whatever it may be. I do drills from time to time but looking for new ones. I am looking for some insight from anyone. Is there anything i can do in order to become a better pool player?

Appreciate it in advance

Work on your fundamentals. It doesn't matter how many drills you do if you don't posses proper alignement, a balanced stance and a straight follow through.

9 ball is a great drill by itself. Decide where you want to put the cue ball, and if you miss the shot or the position set it up and shoot it again untile you can make it consistently (within reason).

Playing the One pocket ghost is also a great position play drill.
 
I use straight pool to get me back into shape any time i feel like i am picking up bad habits or just not in the form I feel I should be in. Straight pool is what i use to gauge my mechanics and develop my rhythm. When I get back into running balls in straight pool I find getting back into 9 ball with confidence in my game to be easier. Hope that helps.
 
holidayinn47 said:
I am looking to become an elite player whether it takes drills or whatever it may be. I do drills from time to time but looking for new ones. I am looking for some insight from anyone. Is there anything i can do in order to become a better pool player?

Appreciate it in advance
What level are you now? Basically to become an "elite player" you are going to have to devote at least 8 hours a day to playing time. When you are not playing, you need to be thinking and dreaming about playing. Get a teacher in your corner to work on what is holding you back. Can you work a full time job and accomplish this goal? I say, no way. It would be nice if there were someone that would support you financially. If not, you are going to have to scrounge and work part time jobs that you can walk away from at a moments notice. If I didn't have a family that depended on me, this is what I would be doing.
 
Many, many drills have been posted over the past few months. Once you start practicing you will notice a few things. You will improve, expect more and then shoot bad, improve, expect more and then shoot bad again etc.... It is hard to keep playing and a good practice when it goes bad. This is when a solid practice schedule is key and make sure you hit balls with a purpose. Biggest areas a person should improve their game...

1. be able to cue straight KEY to potting balls. This can really have you question your aiming.

2. Potting. When you get down with the feeling you are making the shot your cueing action is much looser.

3. Shape/patterns. Once this is addressed you will see natural paths and scratches before they happen not after.

4. How to win. Compete in every little event in your area. Learn to like winning and hate losing. Hate losing is different than a fear to lose. You should be trying to beat everyone 7-0, 9-0 or what ever. Learn to like the pressure. When you are behind learn to grind and battle. If you are down 8-2 in a race to 9... set a goal of reaching 4 and then 6 and then think one more and the pressure is on him etc.

5. Have fun! because it will be really hard to reach your goal and once you do there is no living in pool.

Good luck!
 
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holidayinn47 said:
I am looking to become an elite player whether it takes drills or whatever it may be. I do drills from time to time but looking for new ones. I am looking for some insight from anyone. Is there anything i can do in order to become a better pool player?

Appreciate it in advance
AIM BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
 
David...All good suggestions, but if you have flaws in your 'process', all the practice in the world isn't going to help you elevate your game to an 'elite' (what the heck is elite anyway?) level. The first thing on someone's list, should be to seek out a qualified instructor (one who uses video analysis) to see the quality of your setup and delivery process. Without that, all you do with the regimen you suggested, is groove in poor habits.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

DavidMNienow said:
So if your serious about wanting to improve your game, then make the effort to analyze the areas you need to both strengthen and refine, organize some appropriate instructional material, commit to a schedule of practice, and be discipline in your record keeping efforts each day that you do your practice.
Apply that kind of commitment and discipline to your practice efforts and you will see the improvement that your seeking in time.

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
 
Define "elite player". Drills may help if you are clear on what you need to work on. Fundamentals are the things to focus on most of all. I'm of the opinion that competition will help a great deal as far as seasoning goes. Play in all the tournaments you can. Play for money, it gives you a reason not to miss. Steer clear of leagues, too social to be of any great help as far as experience is concerned. I've heard it and said it: "If you want to get real good at this game, quit your job and get a divorce."
 
DavidMNienow said:
I understand your desire, and I am making the same effort for myself. The thing that I have done this summer is to create a personal training workbook that for me I will work through to the end of the year. In my workbook I pulled material from all the key books that I have in my own pool libary. I pulled material from my Phil Capelle books, The Pro Skill Drill volumes that I have, and The Pro Books by Bob Hemming. I analyzed for myself those skill areas that I felt I still needed to greatly improve upon, and at the same time still strengthen and refine my strongest skill sets. I organized my practice material into a 3 inch binder and broke it down into 31 days of specific subject material. Mind you this is material to cover for 5 months of practice.

I also chose to incorporate the PAT 1 testing materials into my 31 day system.

Bear in mind though that no matter what material you choose to practice and work on, the practice itself isnt going to be sufficient without some means of measuring your own performance from one practice session to another. Record keeping is a key element to my own training regimen. Each day that I am in the pool room, I have my selected set of drill and practice material to work that day. But I keep a log of how successful my practice efforts are from drill to drill.

Every drill is different, and every drill involves a set number of balls that your trying to successfully pocket. Most players do a drill and they may do it for 5 minutes, 10 minutes, maybe more. But how many attempts were actually completed? And how many balls were succesfully pocketed in the practice effort? By what percentage of success did you achieve in balls pocketed versus your failed shots? If you did the same drill last week, and again this week, what percentage improvement did you record if any between the 2 attempts?

Gurantee that nearly every player that practices drills cannot answer any of those kinds of questions regarding their drill practice. Because no one makes an effort to 1) set a define number of attempts on a given drill, 2) caluclate the maximum number of makeable balls in a set number of attempts on the drill, and 3) keep track of balls pocketed on each drill attempt for the total number of defined attempts to be made, and thus be able to calculate a percentage of success achieved. Thats what it takes to know how you are performing.

By keeping a record of performance during each practice session and for each drill your practice by, you give yourself the means of knowing what your performance is. And when you come back around to make another attempt on a drill that you have done before, you now have the means to set a goal so that you can attempt to improve upon a previous known level of performance.

If your goal is to become an elite athlete in the sport of pocket billiards, then you have to begin to adopt an attitude and discipline regarding your training, that is no different than the the same attitude and discipline that any other top athlete would take on in any other professional sport. And if you look at the training methods used by other athletes in other sports, you will find that a key element of those training methods is the recording of personal peformance, for whatever is appropriate for those sports. That means defining some basic forms for the record keeping of your practice efforts.

When I do a drill, and depending on what source the drill is coming from, I will generally do 10 attempts on a drill. But on occasion, particualarly for PAT 1 series testing material, I will practice those particular shots as many as 25, 50 or 100 times. And I keep a record of performance for each shot attempt made. When you start this kind of record keeping habit, you will find it hard to have to write in your log book a low level of performance. But you have to be honest in the record keeping. And know that down the road your numbers will go up. Its been frustrating having to write in some low number, like a 1, 2, 3, or heaven forbid a ZERO. But its going to happen, and you have to accept that it will occur, and occur alot at the begining of the process.

I personally am now just entering the 2nd month of my 5 month training regimen that I created for myself. As I entered the 2nd week of the 1st month I began to get a feeling that some small improvement was taking place in my overall game. And a couple of my playing buddies started to comment on seeing some improvement. At the end of the 1st month , I started to see more success in my placing in the money in the local tournaments, and hearing more complaints about my overall improvement from some of my local competitors. So I know I am making an impact on my game. That success has helped to reinforce my committment to my training process. And that's what its going to take, a committment of discipline to your training.

It does not mean you have to spend 8 hours a day at the table. But it does require at least 1 to 2 hours a day committed to practicing under an organized structured system of practice and record keeping. Do it long enough and you will see some serious improvement in your game.

I will also tell you that if you compete in a regular schedule of local tournaments, and play in any leagues, then use that competitive schedule to define a set of competitive goals that you want to achieve. For myself I have a dozen different competitive goals for the last half of this year. I have a certain number of tournament vicotories I want to achieve by the end of the year, I have a percentage of win/loss I am wanting to achieve in my BCA league, and some other goals as well. But those goals help to foster another level of committment to the playing effort, as I work on my daily training regimen.

So if your serious about wanting to improve your game, then make the effort to analyze the areas you need to both strengthen and refine, organize some appropriate instructional material, commit to a schedule of practice, and be discipline in your record keeping efforts each day that you do your practice.
Apply that kind of commitment and discipline to your practice efforts and you will see the improvement that your seeking in time.

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
Geat post! I believe anyone who follows this type of practice schedule will certainly find the improvement they are looking for.
 
Pick a favorite player and mimmick his every move. Play better players. Practice until "the ghost" is an unworthy opponent.
 
Hmmm, where are all the Aim system gurus? Go learn as many systems as possible, so you can see what doesn't work. You can never become an elite player because all the systems that work are privy to only the top players and no one else knows them or else they would become magically better. :)

Honestly, it takes desire, motivation, willingness to learn, time, patience, imagination, perseverence and a little natural talent doesn't hurt. I would recommend playing all games also, not just 9 ball, or for that matter, pocket billiards. I got better playing lots of 8 ball, straight pool, 9 ball, snooker and 3 cushion, then went on to improve through years of one pocket. They are all intertwined and complement each other greatly, each for their strengths. Make sure you work hard on your fundamanetals or else it will be increasingly difficult to get past a certain level of consistency.

Someone else said something very important too. Find a player you like to watch and whose game you like and try to emulate them. The best players can offer you incredible insight into the way the games are meant to be played merely by evaluating what they do and their thought processes.

Adam W.
 
holidayinn47 said:
I am looking to become an elite player whether it takes drills or whatever it may be. I do drills from time to time but looking for new ones. I am looking for some insight from anyone. Is there anything i can do in order to become a better pool player?

Appreciate it in advance
This has been a very serious first post with much valuable input. So, I can't resist and have to lighten it up a bit.

Just stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

I know that was bad, but ... I know I am not the only one who thought about this.

I appreciated reading everyone's input.
 
Scott,

What you point out I agree with. A sound understanding of game fundamentals is essential. For the person that originally started this thread, we dont know where they really sit in their game skills. But I wrote my advice working on the assumption that probably they are a bit more advanced in their game. And have a decent understanding of the fundamentals. I could be wrong, and they could be a raw beginner, but still wanting to practice to become an elite player.

If they are advanced in their understanding of the game and fundamentals it is still possible for sure to have defects in the fundamentals. But then it is possible with the right type of drills to test your shotmaking fundamentals. And I do that regulalry. I have some pretty basic stuff incorporated in my training regimen. And that fundamental material gets repeated 3 times in my 31 day system. When I land on those training days, I am testing myself to make sure that Im executing the basics as perfectly as possible.

For the raw beginner, getting locked down on fundamentals is key to everything else that follows in the game. The thing that I suggest and recommend to anyone, beginner to advanced, is that whatever level you are at, and whatever material it is that you need to focus on and practice, is that you make the effort at practice be in the most organized and structured way that you can. And keeping records of your performance will help to measure that improvement as it occurs over time. That is something that I feel that everyone can learn from. Taking that approach has certainly helped me.

Certainly going to the pool room to relax and just bang balls may have its place in the game. But banging balls in my book is not practice. And I have seen alot of players, and still do at my pool room, that when they are banging balls at the table say they are practicing. That approach and thinking just does not cut it in my book.

Practice is about developing and maximizing as much as possible the game skills needed to play and compete. When you compete its about letting what you have developed through practice to naturally flow through your physical performance. By understanding your game skills through structured practice and record keeping of your performance, when you do compete, you can do so with more confidence and be more wise in your decision making process at the table.

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow



Scott Lee said:
David...All good suggestions, but if you have flaws in your 'process', all the practice in the world isn't going to help you elevate your game to an 'elite' (what the heck is elite anyway?) level. The first thing on someone's list, should be to seek out a qualified instructor (one who uses video analysis) to see the quality of your setup and delivery process. Without that, all you do with the regimen you suggested, is groove in poor habits.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
David...We're in complete agreement that 'banging balls', or even playing pool (playing the ghost, etc) is not practice...at least not practice that can deliver results in any kind of short term time period. That said, your comments about advanced skill level still do not take into account whether a player (even an advanced or expert) has an accurate, repeatable stroke. Although some of the top pros get away with strange, nontraditional delivery systems (i.e.: Allen Hopkins or Keith McCready, to name just two); they are a very small minority, and to get to a higher level, even the expert player needs to be sure his/her process has the elements that will create that 'perfect' process for themselves. Shooting drills will not give that kind of objective evaluation. It can only come from detailed video analysis, by a qualified instructor. This is why I suggested that this process should be FIRST, in a player's logical steps towards that goal.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

DavidMNienow said:
Certainly going to the pool room to relax and just bang balls may have its place in the game. But banging balls in my book is not practice. And I have seen alot of players, and still do at my pool room, that when they are banging balls at the table say they are practicing. That approach and thinking just does not cut it in my book.

Practice is about developing and maximizing as much as possible the game skills needed to play and compete. When you compete its about letting what you have developed through practice to naturally flow through your physical performance. By understanding your game skills through structured practice and record keeping of your performance, when you do compete, you can do so with more confidence and be more wise in your decision making process at the table.

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow
 
Scott,

Been busy with work so I have not been able to get back to this thread til now.

I agree that there is value to having a video analysis of one's stroke / playing technique. But, what if a player is in a situation where they do not have a local BCA certified instructor to help them with that video analysis? What if the nearest instuctor capable of providing that kind of analysis is outside of the travelling area of the player? Or the player is not able to simply afford the expense of having that kind of analysis done?

If a player is not in a situation for whatever reason to have a video analysis done of their game, then what would you suggest that a player do to test themselves and give themselves the necessary understanding of what their current stroke/playing process is, and know what level of 'perfect' it is?

There are things that I do personally at the table to test the straightness and delivery of my stroke, to test if I am twisting my cue during my stroke delivery, to test my speed control, all in order to know how well my 'process' is. I do that through specific drills to give me that understanding.

So what do you recommend to the player that is in the situation described above?

David "Glamour Dave" Nienow



Scott Lee said:
David...We're in complete agreement that 'banging balls', or even playing pool (playing the ghost, etc) is not practice...at least not practice that can deliver results in any kind of short term time period. That said, your comments about advanced skill level still do not take into account whether a player (even an advanced or expert) has an accurate, repeatable stroke. Although some of the top pros get away with strange, nontraditional delivery systems (i.e.: Allen Hopkins or Keith McCready, to name just two); they are a very small minority, and to get to a higher level, even the expert player needs to be sure his/her process has the elements that will create that 'perfect' process for themselves. Shooting drills will not give that kind of objective evaluation. It can only come from detailed video analysis, by a qualified instructor. This is why I suggested that this process should be FIRST, in a player's logical steps towards that goal.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Play better competition

holidayinn47 said:
I am looking to become an elite player whether it takes drills or whatever it may be. I do drills from time to time but looking for new ones. I am looking for some insight from anyone. Is there anything i can do in order to become a better pool player?

Appreciate it in advance


I find that when I play someone that plays a great game, I'll in return play better. My stroke is better, I stay down and use better follow. If I play someone that can play as well as I do, sometimes I struggle as well.

I also practice shooting 9 ball but with all 15 balls. This keeps the table tighter and it challenges me to have better ball control.






Drills are good too!
 
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