I think I have seen this as a book some where.
Does anyone know about it?
My wife wants to start her own team APA.
Thanks
Does anyone know about it?
My wife wants to start her own team APA.
Thanks
How to Captain 8 Ball Team
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I don't know why she needs a book to start a team. She should just call her local league operator.
If she wants info on what a team captain does, then here's a link to the APA team manual.
http://www.poolplayers.com/tmanual.pdf
This is the captain's Bible.
If she wants info on what a team captain does, then here's a link to the APA team manual.
http://www.poolplayers.com/tmanual.pdf
This is the captain's Bible.
I am a APA captain and other than the APA publications I've never heard of this book if you find it though I am interested in seeing what it offers!
In my opinion, after playing APA for 25 years and Captaining my own teams now for several if you make it (and keep it) fun for your players, Stay within the rules and make sure your team understands the rules! and last do some fun things with your team ! in example one year we had a scratch pot anytime a player scratched in a game they put $1.00 in the pot ! (the amount is up to what your team feels is affordable} hell some teams have more scratchers then others ;-) at the end of the year we had a party with the funds! Peace ! and enjoy!
In my opinion, after playing APA for 25 years and Captaining my own teams now for several if you make it (and keep it) fun for your players, Stay within the rules and make sure your team understands the rules! and last do some fun things with your team ! in example one year we had a scratch pot anytime a player scratched in a game they put $1.00 in the pot ! (the amount is up to what your team feels is affordable} hell some teams have more scratchers then others ;-) at the end of the year we had a party with the funds! Peace ! and enjoy!
How to Be the Captain of a Winning APA 8-Ball Team, by John Loftus. I confess to picking it up, mostly out of curiousity (I've captained a team for a long time). It gives some decent information, IMHO, but nothing I can think of that I hadn't already learned from years of captaining. But it might have helped me out at the begining. And since it's cheap, around $12.00 shipped, you might as well pick it up for the wife.
Drawbacks:
* I do think it's wrong in some places, so be warned. If something doesn't sound right to your wife, that's probably because it isn't right.
* There are a lot of possibly interesting but not really relevant stories of the "One time, we were playing this team and...." sort.
* Much of what he says, particularly about the Vegas Qualification Process, applies only to smaller franchises (under 100 teams).
Cory
Drawbacks:
* I do think it's wrong in some places, so be warned. If something doesn't sound right to your wife, that's probably because it isn't right.
* There are a lot of possibly interesting but not really relevant stories of the "One time, we were playing this team and...." sort.
* Much of what he says, particularly about the Vegas Qualification Process, applies only to smaller franchises (under 100 teams).
Cory
Hell, I'd have your wife go to the place she wants to base her team out of, and talk to the other captains. Find out what they do, and then look at their teams and see if their teams are happy/unhappy. Avoid doing what the unappy teams' captains do, do what the happy teams' captains do. 
The main thing, though, is to keep in mind league is a social thing for most folks. So if your wife wants to put together a team, she needs to make sure the folks on it are as compatible, personality-wise, as possible. Skill in pool can improve - personalities usually don't change.
The main thing, though, is to keep in mind league is a social thing for most folks. So if your wife wants to put together a team, she needs to make sure the folks on it are as compatible, personality-wise, as possible. Skill in pool can improve - personalities usually don't change.
I have picked this book up and read it as well (mainly because I play in the same league as the guy that wrote it and I wanted to know what we has thinking). The big thing I would say about it is he definately writes it from the perspective of using new players to help you get over the hump so to speak and get to qualifiers and not on having the exact same team for a long period of time. But it does offer quite a bit of good info for a new captain and it does as the other person stated have a bunch of good this one time stories (plus I know alot of the people the stories are about so thats funny). Anyway I picked up a copy at Seyberts just because they are local, but I think you can get it at other places like amazon if you want.
Excellent Advice !
This advice holds true in all things in life !! I have found both i9n pool and business one bad personality or maybe one bad person lacking a personality can ruin it for everyone!
ScottW said:Hell, I'd have your wife go to the place she wants to base her team out of, and talk to the other captains. Find out what they do, and then look at their teams and see if their teams are happy/unhappy. Avoid doing what the unappy teams' captains do, do what the happy teams' captains do.
The main thing, though, is to keep in mind league is a social thing for most folks. So if your wife wants to put together a team, she needs to make sure the folks on it are as compatible, personality-wise, as possible. Skill in pool can improve - personalities usually don't change.
This advice holds true in all things in life !! I have found both i9n pool and business one bad personality or maybe one bad person lacking a personality can ruin it for everyone!
Fun or serious
First, decide why your team is playing. Is it purely a social thing, do you want to build a team to get to Vegas, or both. If you want to do well, then I'd recommend the following:
1. Remember it is a TEAM game. If people play their match and leave, or get angry when they don't play then you don't need them. Our APA team used to all socialise together and with the other team, while supporting their player often till the early hours. Get a great team spirit, get your players to play for the team, and fight for the team, not for themselves. Play your players according to the correct matchups, not individual egos. Great team players will understand, and will even know when they are not playing without you having to say anything because they know the matchups don't suit them playing.
2. Learn the handicap system and matchups. I could write pages on this. Basic concept is don't put your bubble 4/5 against their muppet SL3. You don't need to win 5-0. You just need an average of 3-2 all season. A defeat always has value unless you are at your NLA. So put your players that can't go up against their weak players. Put your bubble players against their strongest players.
3. In the playoffs, always put up first - no exceptions. Then when it comes to match 4, if you are 2-1 up, you save your best remaining player for their weakest. If you are 1-2 down, you can make it two close games. Example, your strong SL6 and your average SL3 are left. They have their solid SL5 and their weak SL3. SL6 vs SL5 is probably 50/50, and your SL3 may have 60/40 chance of winning. You need one win and with these matchups, you are 80% to win the match. However, get your SL6 against their weak SL3 and you are way up in the 90%.
I could write a lot more but that's the basic concept.
If you are out to have fun only, then just let everyone play an even amount of matches and drink a lot
First, decide why your team is playing. Is it purely a social thing, do you want to build a team to get to Vegas, or both. If you want to do well, then I'd recommend the following:
1. Remember it is a TEAM game. If people play their match and leave, or get angry when they don't play then you don't need them. Our APA team used to all socialise together and with the other team, while supporting their player often till the early hours. Get a great team spirit, get your players to play for the team, and fight for the team, not for themselves. Play your players according to the correct matchups, not individual egos. Great team players will understand, and will even know when they are not playing without you having to say anything because they know the matchups don't suit them playing.
2. Learn the handicap system and matchups. I could write pages on this. Basic concept is don't put your bubble 4/5 against their muppet SL3. You don't need to win 5-0. You just need an average of 3-2 all season. A defeat always has value unless you are at your NLA. So put your players that can't go up against their weak players. Put your bubble players against their strongest players.
3. In the playoffs, always put up first - no exceptions. Then when it comes to match 4, if you are 2-1 up, you save your best remaining player for their weakest. If you are 1-2 down, you can make it two close games. Example, your strong SL6 and your average SL3 are left. They have their solid SL5 and their weak SL3. SL6 vs SL5 is probably 50/50, and your SL3 may have 60/40 chance of winning. You need one win and with these matchups, you are 80% to win the match. However, get your SL6 against their weak SL3 and you are way up in the 90%.
I could write a lot more but that's the basic concept.
If you are out to have fun only, then just let everyone play an even amount of matches and drink a lot
hobokenapa said:First, decide why your team is playing. Is it purely a social thing, do you want to build a team to get to Vegas, or both. If you want to do well, then I'd recommend the following:
1. Remember it is a TEAM game. If people play their match and leave, or get angry when they don't play then you don't need them. Our APA team used to all socialise together and with the other team, while supporting their player often till the early hours. Get a great team spirit, get your players to play for the team, and fight for the team, not for themselves. Play your players according to the correct matchups, not individual egos. Great team players will understand, and will even know when they are not playing without you having to say anything because they know the matchups don't suit them playing.
2. Learn the handicap system and matchups. I could write pages on this. Basic concept is don't put your bubble 4/5 against their muppet SL3. You don't need to win 5-0. You just need an average of 3-2 all season. A defeat always has value unless you are at your NLA. So put your players that can't go up against their weak players. Put your bubble players against their strongest players.
3. In the playoffs, always put up first - no exceptions. Then when it comes to match 4, if you are 2-1 up, you save your best remaining player for their weakest. If you are 1-2 down, you can make it two close games. Example, your strong SL6 and your average SL3 are left. They have their solid SL5 and their weak SL3. SL6 vs SL5 is probably 50/50, and your SL3 may have 60/40 chance of winning. You need one win and with these matchups, you are 80% to win the match. However, get your SL6 against their weak SL3 and you are way up in the 90%.
I could write a lot more but that's the basic concept.
If you are out to have fun only, then just let everyone play an even amount of matches and drink a lot
When and if you get a chance to write a lot more I'd love to read it!
ruk
Smart stuff, now stop teaching the eggs!hobokenapa said:First, decide why your team is playing. Is it purely a social thing, do you want to build a team to get to Vegas, or both. If you want to do well, then I'd recommend the following:
1. Remember it is a TEAM game. If people play their match and leave, or get angry when they don't play then you don't need them. Our APA team used to all socialise together and with the other team, while supporting their player often till the early hours. Get a great team spirit, get your players to play for the team, and fight for the team, not for themselves. Play your players according to the correct matchups, not individual egos. Great team players will understand, and will even know when they are not playing without you having to say anything because they know the matchups don't suit them playing.
2. Learn the handicap system and matchups. I could write pages on this. Basic concept is don't put your bubble 4/5 against their muppet SL3. You don't need to win 5-0. You just need an average of 3-2 all season. A defeat always has value unless you are at your NLA. So put your players that can't go up against their weak players. Put your bubble players against their strongest players.
3. In the playoffs, always put up first - no exceptions. Then when it comes to match 4, if you are 2-1 up, you save your best remaining player for their weakest. If you are 1-2 down, you can make it two close games. Example, your strong SL6 and your average SL3 are left. They have their solid SL5 and their weak SL3. SL6 vs SL5 is probably 50/50, and your SL3 may have 60/40 chance of winning. You need one win and with these matchups, you are 80% to win the match. However, get your SL6 against their weak SL3 and you are way up in the 90%.
I could write a lot more but that's the basic concept.
If you are out to have fun only, then just let everyone play an even amount of matches and drink a lot
Cory
(Teams still make fun of me for putting up first all the time! And that's after years of having them locked up with unfavorable matches in the final two matches.)
GET THE BOOK!!! If she's serious an really wants to start a team off right, then this is the one book that all houses all of the veterens knowledge. Some of the information you have to read between the lines with, that interpetation info will become clear with more knowledge as she progresses through the first session or two.
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