How to get out from here

Put the cueball behind the 3 and bank the one out of there freezing the cueball to the back of the 3. The out will be alot easier with ball in hand on your next shot. JMO.

Southpaw
 
Neil said:
Then you still have the problem of the 2-9. Although that is a viable option. My real point is sometimes it is to your advantage to have the cb jump over obstructing balls to gain position. Something that I think is often overlooked in possible shot options.
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I would just prefer to move the one closer to the 2-9 so when I have ball in hand, I can try for a break out shot where I do not have to turn the cue ball loose and not know where it may end up. Or, you may be able to bank the one ball into the 2-9 on the safety I described. JMO.

Southpaw
 
If I could throw the one into the corner with right english, I'd do that, pushing the 3 out of the way and giving myself a whack at the 2-9 combo. It looks like it might bank with a little english. Otherwise, sending the one two or 3 rails and stopping the cb is a simple and effective safe.
 
Neil said:
Last night I had this situation. My opponent scratched on the break and left me this. The one is questionable on whether or not I can get a good hit past the 8 to make it in the bottom left corner. I could play safe, but didn't like that option because I didn't see where it would get me anywhere. I could hook him, but I figured that the guy I was playing would fly at them and mess up the layout. I knew the only problem balls were the one and the two-nine.

What I did was put the cb where shown, used a jump shot to clear the edge of the 8 and to get over the 3, broke out the 2-9 on the same shot, and ran out.

The point is- sometimes you can use a jump shot to clear other balls for position... a shot I seldom see used. But does come in handy.

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Obviously you hit a good shot and was the right shot at that moment...

If I had done that...I see the CB glancing off the 2 then off the 7 and scratching in the corner pocket...

I think this is one of those playing the odds. I can lock you up behind the 3 about 99.9% of the time and send that 1 down by the 2-9 for some kind of BIH break out shot about 75% of the time at least I would say.

I have no idea what the % on the Jump break out shot would be...I belive it would be a very random % for the 1st and only 1 attempt...

I am one that usually waits until after the rack before saying nice out or nice shot on the X....But this would definatly be one of those shots that warrants a Nice Shot!! and or tapping of the cue immediatly after the shot.
 
Neil said:
Thanks, but it's not very difficult. You just have to line up the carom angle off the one. Yes, safes are an option. It was a race to three, and I figured my opponent wouldn't get out anyway. So it was a good time to practice it in a game situation. (race to 3 small tournament)

The whole point of this thread was to point out an often overlooked option.
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Would you have shot it the same way in a race to 9 for $500?? If your answer is "no", then you should consider mentally playing tougher and not take chances just because its a small tourney....this can create bad habits in tough situations. If your answer is "yes", then can we play some?? ;)


Southpaw
 
Neil said:
Obviously, even though I have several times pointed out the purpose of the thread, you still seem to have missed it.

And, to answer your question- against the same player, race to 9, I probably would have shot the 3 into the 2-9 to break them out for an easy runnout after he missed something along the way. :D
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I understand the point that this is an overlooked shot and a very effective one if it works out. But, the title of this thread is "How to get out from here", and I would rather take an approach that will work 80-90% of the time. You do not have to end up with a shot on the two if you do break out those balls and the one can be easily missed trying to concentrate too much on the break out. JMO.


Southpaw
 
That shot is nuts, and I doubt that it's ever the right choice - too much luck involved in all aspects of it, from making the OB while jumping to clearing the intervening ball to getting the shape you want.

And in this particular case safety is the obvious play, since your opponent is already on one and you can put either the 1 or the CB in jail.

pj
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You didnt say "How to get out in this inning at the table". Playing safe there is setting up a chance for you to "get out" from there.

Southpaw
 
Patrick: Ever the right choice? Well, since I did run out, that makes at least once.
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I gotta admit I like the kind of wildass shot you chose, but succeeding once doesn't make it the right choice. Succeeding a high enough percentage of the time does - that's what I think is unlikely. There are just too many moving parts in this shot.

By the way, there was no 3 foul rule.

To all, even with the safe, to where you break out the 2-9 on your next ball in hand, there still is no guarantee of a shot on the 2 afterwards.
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Even without the 3-foul rule, looks to me like the safety is also the best shot for the breakout:

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pj
chgo
 
Well if that were in a tournament or money match, that is a circus shot. But nice out. The safe is a better option, obviously because it's a stone-cold lock up safe (although you are only talking about runouts).
 
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Sorry, Neil, I am with Southpaw on this one. You figured out a shot, and got lucky on it, and I am not sure you are fishing for a few attaboys, good shot, but not one I would play in a a serious tournament or for money unless I was forced to. That shot you made is a 1 in 15 shot for a pro to happen like it did. Maybe in practice.

The name of the game in Pool is consistency, in offense and defense both. Even though your solution happened to work for you, I would side with Southpaw and choose the options that yielded the best results the greatest percentage of the time.

Total offensive players will soon learn that they can not make every shot, no matter if they think they can or not.
 
The RIGHT play is the safe. The shot you chose is a low percentage shot at best and far to risky. IMHO the RGHT shot is the RIGHT shot regardless of who you're playing. That being said....if you did it to me during a match it would earn you a tap, tap, tap. :D

After that I'd be hoping you keep trying shots like that ;)

George
 
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