How to make these bank shots

[skins]

The problem with #1 isn't the kiss nor the scratch. Both can be avoided. It's trying to get enough inside english on the cue then getting it to "take" on the object ball.. Using a little low inside (left). Took a couple of tries. Thanks to my better half for the great camera work. :smile:

https://youtu.be/IaDMLcUJH8M

 

[skins]

The first and last banks shots are made with center cue ball.

You need to push the cue ball across the object ball (no rotation and no side spin)to get the twist on the object ball.

Speed is important.

I learned all these bank from Eddy Taylor.

They can all be made. Easier than they look.

Bill S.

I've always shot as I posted with good results so I tried it with just center and no go BUT when I applied just a hair inside with center..Bingo. First try...No kiss and no scratch..Nice Bill

 

[AlexandruM]

The problem with #1 isn't the kiss nor the scratch. Both can be avoided. It's trying to get enough inside english on the cue then getting it to "take" on the object ball.. Using a little low inside (left). Took a couple of tries. Thanks to my better half for the great camera work. :smile:

https://youtu.be/IaDMLcUJH8M

Thanks for the video. It works, was able to make the no.1 bank two times in a row. If you get the idea how it works, and cut it right, bank is fairly easy :grin:

 

[AlexandruM]

The first and last banks shots are made with center cue ball.

You need to push the cue ball across the object ball (no rotation and no side spin)to get the twist on the object ball.

Speed is important.

I learned all these bank from Eddy Taylor.

They can all be made. Easier than they look.

Bill S.

On no.3 bank, center cue ball works like magic. A little firmer speed and it got in the pocket like magic.

No.1 bank still trying to make it only with center.

Thank you for reply.

 

[oldschool1478]

The problem with #1 isn't the kiss nor the scratch. Both can be avoided. It's trying to get enough inside english on the cue then getting it to "take" on the object ball.. Using a little low inside (left). Took a couple of tries. Thanks to my better half for the great camera work. :smile:

https://youtu.be/IaDMLcUJH8M

Nice shot. I was able to replicate with your ball placement.
However, your 9 ball is much closer to the bottom rail than the illustration.
The drawing has the pocket much larger than it would be on a table.

 

[skins]

Nice shot. I was able to replicate with your ball placement.
However, your 9 ball is much closer to the bottom rail than the illustration.
The drawing has the pocket much larger than it would be on a table.

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I think you're mistaken. It's pretty much exact as the diagram. It's hard to see from the video but below is the exact position the ball was in. I measured and marked with chalk. The inside edge of each straight edge is the center of the dots... So good try but no....But even if it were closer to the bottom rail it would make the shot even harder... So If you were right, I guess kudos to me then!!

 

[oldschool1478]

Uh... I don,t see a 9 on that ball.
Re-read my post.
Your cue ball looks correct.

 

[skins]

Uh... I don,t see a 9 on that ball.
Re-read my post.
Your cue ball looks correct.

Oops.. I gues I should read better..lol... Here is my 9 ball.. Looks pretty good to me.. Marked the same way as the cue ball...

 

[skins]

The chalk mark.....

 

[skins]

The "illustration" by the way is exactly what it is.. It not to scale.. All symantics.. A little more either way and the ball can be made rather easily.. I thnk your being a finicky Fred...Lol

 

[oldschool1478]

This is where your 1 ball should be.
The illustrated table and diamonds are to scale.
The pockets are not to scale.
Try the shot with your 1 ball 1 1/4-inch more up-table.
I am a finicky Dan, not Fred.

 

[skins]

This is where your 1 ball should be.
The illustrated table and diamonds are to scale.
The pockets are not to scale.
Try the shot with your 1 ball 1 1/4-inch more up-table.
I am a finicky Dan, not Fred.

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Look "Dan", the OP tried the shot how I desribed and made it the first two tries. I think your taking HIS SHOT and making it YOUR SHOT. He is already satisfied. I did what he asked.. I think he would setup the shot on his table the way HE was asking...Now if you want to adjust any other shots to make them more difficult be my guest, but my job is done here.. Good rolls

 

[skins]

Just for sake of conversation, the ratio of the .jpg table, inside length and width, is 2.05 to 1 and my real Gold Crown 3 is 2.01 to 1.. Regardless it just brings us back to the OP and his testing of my suggestions with his shot positioning the way he was asking...

 

[ideologist]

Hah. Forget that kick bank...it is really a no-good shot in real gameplay.

If you and your opponent both need 1 and that is the last ball on the table, you are gonna lose from there more often than is reasonable.

But yet, somehow...we keep shooting those hero shots.

How is that kick-bank not good? One ball left on the table as pictured, it's the shot you shoot if you want to win. Sends ball to your hole and the cueball goes a mile up table. Theres no better safety that can also win the match right then. Even hitting it badly, you just knock the ball away from the opponent's hole

 

[bbb]

How is that kick-bank not good? One ball left on the table as pictured, it's the shot you shoot if you want to win. Sends ball to your hole and the cueball goes a mile up table. Theres no better safety that can also win the match right then. Even hitting it badly, you just knock the ball away from the opponent's hole

cause if you make the bank
YOU WIN....:thumbup:......

 

[Black-Balled]

How is that kick-bank not good? One ball left on the table as pictured, it's the shot you shoot if you want to win. Sends ball to your hole and the cueball goes a mile up table. Theres no better safety that can also win the match right then. Even hitting it badly, you just knock the ball away from the opponent's hole

It is not a hi % shot. You lose a lot of control over the balls and doing so, you will give your opponent 'air'more often than necessary.

 

[ideologist]

It is not a hi % shot. You lose a lot of control over the balls and doing so, you will give your opponent 'air'more often than necessary.

Not a high percentage for what? Pocketing it? Who cares about making it. Moving it toward your hole? With it being the last ball on the table, distance and pressure make for a great safe.

Just spiking the object ball around sells out a long bank almost certainly. The kick-bank is pretty easy to make a good hit and send whitey upstream. Keeping pressure on both ways is how to win at One Pocket, I'm sure you already know that.

 

[Black-Balled]

Not a high percentage for what? Pocketing it? Who cares about making it. Moving it toward your hole? With it being the last ball on the table, distance and pressure make for a great safe.

Just spiking the object ball around sells out a long bank almost certainly. The kick-bank is pretty easy to make a good hit and send whitey upstream. Keeping pressure on both ways is how to win at One Pocket, I'm sure you already know that.

Precisely.the reaom I say the shot is no good...the control aspects of the balls.

I think you are going to leave an easy return shot more often than you would if you place the ball in the area in front of your hole and stuck Whitey on the end rail.

I have far more confidence stopping cue ball on end rail shooting it straight on, versus Kicking It

 

[lfigueroa]

I think, from the position as illustrated, the kick bank is no good.

You have to hit the OB at a very steep angle coming off the rail and, if you misjudge it by just a hair, you're going to whiff it or fuzz it and leave it in front of his hole. Even a decent hit at that angle is going to leave the CB on his side of the table and if your speeds not good your likely to leave a cross table bank. Don't get me wrong -- I generally like kick banks, often after the break, but at a shallower angle.

It would take a *very* precise hit to get a good outcome from the OP's position.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Black-Balled]

I think I might make the ball 5%, but I am just as likely to double kiss it and leave that ob right where it is.

I have been thinking about what i think the correct shot is and i.am interested in others' thoughts?

I think, from the position as illustrated, the kick bank is no good.

You have to hit the OB at a very steep angle coming off the rail and, if you misjudge it by just a hair, you're going to whiff it or fuzz it and leave it in front of his hole. Even a decent hit at that angle is going to leave the CB on his side of the table and if your speeds not good your likely to leave a cross table bank. Don't get me wrong -- I generally like kick banks, often after the break, but at a shallower angle.

It would take a *very* precise hit to get a good outcome from the OP's position.

Lou Figueroa