How to tell the difference between a good, and bad table mechanic.

[realkingcobra]

Like how tight to tighten down the rail bolts?
A. Really tight
B. Hand tight
C. Off hand tight
D 15 foot lbs of torque

No, the question needs to be more like,

Q) What do you use to tighten the rail bolts on a Diamond?
A) I use a impact drill.
Q) how tight do you tighten the rail bolts?
A) i let the driver rattle for 2 seconds.
Q) So how tight do you get the rail bolts?
Q) Do you have a torque wench to check the tightness of the rail bolts.
A)No, I've never needed one before.

 

[Cue Alchemist]

This is a great thread.This is how it should look. The way you do the pockets is exceptional. Awesome work. I notice you don't need to use a ton of staples along the rails. Just evenly spaced out, Will remember that. if I ever do mine again.

 

[realkingcobra]

This is a great thread.This is how it should look. The way you do the pockets is exceptional. Awesome work. I notice you don't need to use a ton of staples along the rails. Just evenly spaced out, Will remember that. if I ever do mine again.

Make sure to angle the staples too, that way both legs are not in the same weave row, so the rail cloth won't end up sagging under the rail because the weave pulled apart from trimming to close to the staples.

 

[realkingcobra]

This is a great thread.This is how it should look. The way you do the pockets is exceptional. Awesome work. I notice you don't need to use a ton of staples along the rails. Just evenly spaced out, Will remember that. if I ever do mine again.

If you happen to own an Olhausen, make sure to place the staples back about 3/4" from the edge of the bevel going up towards the bottom of the cushions, that way you won't get any cloth sag between staples, like you get when you look under the rails where the rail cloth and bet cloth meet. If any of you own an Olhausen, take a look under the rails, I'd be willing to bet almost everyone of you that own an Olhausen will see the little sags in the cloth between staples.

 

[Cue Alchemist]

I have a dynamic II table. Yeah the last time I did it, it took me about 4 days to do all 6.i had to redo, at least 3 of them twice. Pulling the rail the tight enough was the problem I had. To wear it didn't sag underneath. Once I did get it right, then I cut the cloth close the line of staples, like yours, Bearing in mind I had never done rails before. Learning experience, you might say!!
I've seen this, with other table fitters doing the type of work, shown in your first set of pictures.and putting cloth on, you didn't choose. Thinking you won't notice. Charging way too much. I couldn't afford to hire them, anyway.So along with my brother. I learnt how to do them. To think I might know enough to do this for money, is just mental!! There's a difference between doing your own. To trying to making money out of it. Much respect to you!! You actually know what your doing.

 

[realkingcobra]

I have a dynamic II table. Yeah the last time I did it, it took me about 4 days to do all 6.i had to redo, at least 3 of them twice. Pulling the rail the tight enough was the problem I had. To wear it didn't sag underneath. Once I did get it right, then I cut the cloth close the line of staples, like yours, Bearing in mind I had never done rails before. Learning experience, you might say!!
I've seen this, with other table fitters doing the type of work, shown in your first set of pictures.and putting cloth on, you didn't choose. Thinking you won't notice. Charging way too much. I couldn't afford to hire them, anyway.So along with my brother. I learnt how to do them. To think I might know enough to do this for money, is just mental!! There's a difference between doing your own. To trying to making money out of it. Much respect to you!! You actually know what your doing.

This is a set of Mark Gregory Anniversary 9ft rails a customer bought from Mark, shipped to the customer. Of course the customer complained on AZB about how badly the rails played, keep in mind, this table is down by Salem, OR. Long, long way from Mark. So Mark called me, second guessing the work he did building the rails, I told him the problem was who ever set the table up, hard for Mark to believe that, so I drove down to Salem, OR to see what I could do, once I took the rails off, cut the rail cloth, was going to replace it, this is what I saw on the bottom of the rails, nice work right there buddy!!!! You can't make this shit up, this is most of the work done on pool tables throughout this country that I have witnessed!!

 

[realkingcobra]

And like I say, don't point fingers at hacks work unless you show your work fixing it, so here's my work.

 

[fastone371]

This is a set of Mark Gregory Anniversary 9ft rails a customer bought from Mark, shipped to the customer. Of course the customer complained on AZB about how badly the rails played, keep in mind, this table is down by Salem, OR. Long, long way from Mark. So Mark called me, second guessing the work he did building the rails, I told him the problem was who ever set the table up, hard for Mark to believe that, so I drove down to Salem, OR to see what I could do, once I took the rails off, cut the rail cloth, was going to replace it, this is what I saw on the bottom of the rails, nice work right there buddy!!!! You can't make this shit up, this is most of the work done on pool tables throughout this country that I have witnessed!!

This dude shouldn't even be allowed to touch a table.

 

[fastone371]

Let's say you have a Gold Crown, and you'd like to get it recovered, and you're talking with the friend of a friend who recovers pool tables on the side, but says he's real good, and fast! Then you asked to see some of his work, not the finished jobs done, then he sends you these pictures of the GC rails hr spray glued AND stapled, would you still be inclined to hire the friend of your friend that recovers pool tables on the side?

This why I had to learn to cover my table, I didnt want hack work and that was all I could find.

If you were in my back yard Glen I would have you over in a heart beat to cover my GC.

 

[realkingcobra]

This why I had to learn to cover my table, I didnt want hack work and that was all I could find.

If you were in my back yard Glen I would have you over in a heart beat to cover my GC.

What no way buddy, I'd let you use my tools, your hands, and while I have some coffee, I'd be telling you what to do next

 

[1969mako]

You can come over my house and tell me what to do anytime. I might even put a shot of baileys in that coffee.

 

[coolidge]

And like I say, don't point fingers at hacks work unless you show your work fixing it, so here's my work.

I'll show my work. I marked and cut the rail cloth free yesterday and expertly unfolded the cloth onto the table. That's some expert unfolding right there!

 

[realkingcobra]

I'll show my work. I marked and cut the rail cloth free yesterday and expertly unfolded the cloth onto the table. That's some expert unfolding right there!

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You might have to call me to get you through the rest of that job over the phone, still waiting on Ford to install the 4th transmission in my truck since last September, and under warranty at that!!!

 

[coolidge]

You might have to call me to get you through the rest of that job over the phone, still waiting on Ford to install the 4th transmission in my truck since last September, and under warranty at that!!!

Bummer on the transmission geeze. No worries I have been ill for the past 6 weeks and just got out of the hospital last week arrgh! I'll give you a call maybe this evening, time to go take my horse pills.

 

[realkingcobra]

Bummer on the transmission geeze. No worries I have been ill for the past 6 weeks and just got out of the hospital last week arrgh! I'll give you a call maybe this evening, time to go take my horse pills.

 

[GoldCrown]

still waiting on Ford to install the 4th transmission in my truck since last September, and under warranty at that!!!

FORD Found On Road Dead

 

[1969mako]

Glen,
What is this process called and what do you call these strips? are they plastic? I am assuming you can do this on a GC 2 because it looks like a GC 1 in the Pic.
Thanks.

 

[realkingcobra]

Glen,
What is this process called and what do you call these strips? are they plastic? I am assuming you can do this on a GC 2 because it looks like a GC 1 in the Pic.
Thanks.
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Thats a 3/4" plastic straping tape used to hold up PVC pipes. Home Depot, Lowes, any kind of store like that carries it in the plumbing department. Make sure you use 1/2' long, 1/2" crown staples when attaching it. I call it the French fold

 

[1969mako]

....I call it the French fold

Ahhhhh, that's what you were talking about when you told me that.. I was trying to figure out what you were referring to...
All making sense to me now... I'm a little slow.. I love that look and I am assuming it has no influence on playability?

 

[realkingcobra]

Ahhhhh, that's what you were talking about when you told me that.. I was trying to figure out what you were referring to...
All making sense to me now... I'm a little slow.. I love that look and I am assuming it has no influence on playability?

Nope, I just don't like seeing the staples or pocket flaps in the pockets, also protects your hands from scraping staples when picking balls out of the drop pockets, and prevents balls from getting chips from hitting exposed staples.