How will American 9ballers adjust.

mnorwood

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This thread is not meant to disparage or criticize any player. The IPT is just getting started and it is new to everyone. With that thought in mind I have a question: can American pro players continue to play 9 ball on simonis with buckets and expect to compete at the highest level? Maybe this question is a bit premature due to the fact that the results of the second round are not even complete. However, enough top American nine ball players have fallen and are about to fall as I type to warrant throwing it out for discussion.

Will they have to devote more of their time to playing 8 on diamonds and gorino to improve.

Maybe these questions are too obvious. I hope I am not rubbing anyone the wrong way.
 
Adjust? They're doing real well and I assure you that the contingent's winning % will be higher as the tour progress. There are going to be more American players holding higher spots in the players ranking by the end of the season.
 
mnorwood said:
This thread is not meant to disparage or criticize any player. The IPT is just getting started and it is new to everyone. With that thought in mind I have a question: can American pro players continue to play 9 ball on simonis with buckets and expect to compete at the highest level? Maybe this question is a bit premature due to the fact that the results of the second round are not even complete. However, enough top American nine ball players have fallen and are about to fall as I type to warrant throwing it out for discussion.

Will they have to devote more of their time to playing 8 on diamonds and gorino to improve.

Maybe these questions are too obvious. I hope I am not rubbing anyone the wrong way.

I think you've brought up some significant points. First of all, the current IPT cloth made by Garino (sp?), is a bit faster than the previous Mali cloth and should not be a significant factor. The Diamond Pro-Am tables are another story. My friend has the identical table, set up the same way, and I assure you those pockets are *tight.* To anyone accoustomed to firing in long cut shots on softer tables is in for a big surprise. So, all the players, Americans and Internationals, will learn to play much tighter position. As this tournament progresses, those who control the cueball best will rise to the top.

Another thing the IPT has done is raise the appreciation for 8-ball. It's no longer the game of amateurs. As anyone who has played it at a high level knows, it's a game requiring precise position, creativity and careful planning. And unlike 9-ball, make a tiny mistake during your run-out in 8-ball, and you are in big trouble against a good player. In 9-ball, it's *much* easier to duck because you only need protect one ball. Many argue that 9-ball requires more shotmaking ability and things like 3-rail position. Like those things are a part of 8-ball? Try 3-rail position, threading the cueball through a table of a dozen or more balls, where contacting one ball can mean a loss. That's easy?

In any case, I don't think Americans are any more disadvantaged than those from other countries. However, it's clear the Filipinos with their collective experience playing rotation (a 15 ball game) know how to play tight position on a crowded table. I believe that is the biggest difference. It's knowing how to hit a stop, as opposed to an area or a line as in 9-ball.
 
mnorwood said:
This thread is not meant to disparage or criticize any player. The IPT is just getting started and it is new to everyone. With that thought in mind I have a question: can American pro players continue to play 9 ball on simonis with buckets and expect to compete at the highest level? Maybe this question is a bit premature due to the fact that the results of the second round are not even complete. However, enough top American nine ball players have fallen and are about to fall as I type to warrant throwing it out for discussion.

Will they have to devote more of their time to playing 8 on diamonds and gorino to improve.

Maybe these questions are too obvious. I hope I am not rubbing anyone the wrong way.

Slower cloth actually offers more room for error with respect to how hard the cue ball is hit to get proper position.

Let's say you want the cue ball to end up at point A. If you hit the CB too hard on fast cloth it will travel farther past point A than it would on slower cloth if the CB is hit equally too hard. The opposite is also true. If you hit the CB too softly on fast cloth, it will come up short of point A by a greater distance than if you hit the CB equally too soft on slow cloth.

There is an adjustment period anytime a player changes equipment, but the slow cloth in and of itself does not make the game any harder.
 
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