How Would You Play This? 7/13/07 Pt.1

Jude Rosenstock said:
This was something that came up for me last night in a league match. Any ideas on how to get on the 3-ball?

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I would go this route and if I missed the 7, I would not have enough speed on the cue to scratch. Using low right English to get three rail shape when you are stretched out like that is a little tough. Much easier to control the straight up and down shot as shown below, IMHO.

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If you missed the 7 you might quite possibly still be able to pocket the 3 or at the very least play a safety on the three.
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I'd hit it with hi right, hitting just below the side pocket; to the bottom cushon and up towards the six. You should at least wind up with an easy bank on the 3 and possibly a good angle to shoot it straight in and get on the 4 . If not, you've got an easy safety.
 
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I saw Efren confronted with a shot like this about 20 years ago. Most of us sweaters were wondering how he was going to play this. He took a good amount of time to calculate his strategy. What he did next knocked our socks off!

Using your layout, he put low-right on the cueball and sent it two rails and right between the 4 and 5. I mean it split them perfectly, which stopped the cueball for perfect position on the 3. The guy next to me said, "I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it with my own two eyes". Of course Efren easily ran out the game, which happened to be rotation.

Who else would've thought of this?
 
Sorry I am late to this.

I like what Deadon/Scott/Joey have mentioned. You will be okay if the CB is anywhere in the green zone.. :rolleyes:

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Got to say that the above option described by cuetable and by Joey was the same option which the percentages sang out to me as soon as I looked at the layout. Having read all the other options put forward still like it:)
 
Can anyone paste a jpeg image of Judes layout for me please.

One day Cuetable will work for me but until then I am crap out of luck
unless its pasted as a jpeg.
 
cuetable said:
Sorry I am late to this.

I like what Deadon/Scott/Joey have mentioned. You will be okay if the CB is anywhere in the green zone.. :rolleyes:

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IMO that's a pretty dangerous shot. If you go into the 7 and hit it on the left, you would have to be very lucky to not get hooked behind the 4-5 cluster. If you hit the 7 ball full, the 7 is just gonna roll straight and you will probably be hooked behind it. If you hit the 7ball on the right side (the side closest to the side rail), the 7ball becomes a very big ball to hook you, because it will be rolling in the direction of the 3. Another problem with this shot is that the point of the side pocket comes into play.
 

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hemicudas said:
I like it a lot, Mosconiac. If you come up short you have the 7 ball. Most pros like to come two rails out rather than straight back. More room for error.


I really don't think this shot is laying right to be able to do what Mosconiac described. If the 2ball were a bit further off the rail, or a few inches down in line with the first diamond on the short rail (and the cueball down a few inches too), then I could see it, but the cueball can't come off the 2ball that wide, even if you hit it really thick and cheat the pocket.
 
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td873 said:
I agree, but not on the 2 ball.

As drawn, this situation is marginal at best. You are stretched across the table shooting for long distance shape into a really small position zone. If this is do-or-die time, my shot would be to pocket the two with straight top (I tend to use little or no english with the bridge or stretched) and play towards the bottom left pocket. You can hit the middle of the rail (below the side pocket) pretty easily. Anywhere you end up below the 6 is a great safety opportunity: lock 'em up on the 4-5.

No way would I chance bumping something or scratching with low right english on the two-ball. And the likelihood of hitting it just right to lay on the side rail to end up with a shot is pretty small. If you get behind the 4-5, you're toast.

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I like this idea a lot. There are three good results you can produce: 1) leaving a good shot on the three, b) leaving a two-way bank on the three, and 3) leaving a simple safety on the three. As with most of the recommendations in this thread, it's possible to go wrong, but this strikes me as a high percentage choice.
 
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