How would you play this? My first attempt.

Chris_Lynch

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Here's a situation I had a while back and I had someone argue with me as to how I played to get on the 3 ball here. I could've played safe of course but I liked the out here. I didn't get out but I stand by my original selection. I'll show that later. Any ideas from you guys?

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Chris_Lynch said:
Here's a situation I had a while back and I had someone argue with me as to how I played to get on the 3 ball here. I could've played safe of course but I liked the out here. I didn't get out but I stand by my original selection. I'll show that later. Any ideas from you guys?

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Make the 2 with low-left, go to the rail, kiss off the 4 ball, and let the pill ride the rail on down to the 3.

It's the only shot there unless you want to duck.
 
You guys chose the same thing I did. I ended up tying up the 4 and 7 and got straight in on the 3. Couldn't get out. It was brutal. I didn't see any other offensive options here. Do you guys?
 
Chris_Lynch said:
You guys chose the same thing I did. I ended up tying up the 4 and 7 and got straight in on the 3. Couldn't get out. It was brutal. I didn't see any other offensive options here. Do you guys?


I would have played a 2 way shot:

Cut across the 2 ball to cross bank it into the opposite corner. Use a ceterball punch stroke and play the 2 hard enough to bank under the 9 if you miss.


Eric
 
Chris_Lynch said:
You guys chose the same thing I did. I ended up tying up the 4 and 7 and got straight in on the 3. Couldn't get out. It was brutal. I didn't see any other offensive options here. Do you guys?

You could cross-corner bank the deuce, if it goes, and take whitey straight up & down near the center of the table. If missed, it should be a built in safety.
 
Chris_Lynch said:
You guys chose the same thing I did. I ended up tying up the 4 and 7 and got straight in on the 3. Couldn't get out. It was brutal. I didn't see any other offensive options here. Do you guys?

Squatting the snow right between the rail and the 4, while banking the deuce 2 rails towards the 9 is a good shot too.
 
Neil said:
I don't like that shot. It sends the 4 flying into other balls that can make another mess.

There is another option, but it requires good cb control and a pure stroke. You hit the 2 firm with extreme center left. The cb will hit the rail and spin back missing the 4 and go between the 5 and the side pocket to the rail, come off the rail to go across table for good position on the 3.

It is a 'touch' shot, and done wrong, you run into the 4, or scratch in the side. This is one of those shots that practice really pays off on. KNOWING where that cb is going to go.

I don't worry much about making those messes. It's 9-Ball and if the layout gets jacked up, then safeties are easy enough. More often than not, I will win the game from this layout.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
You could cross-corner bank the deuce, if it goes, and take whitey straight up & down near the center of the table. If missed, it should be a built in safety.

What did lightning strike us all at the same moment?


Eric >check the post times
 
Neil said:
I don't like that shot. It sends the 4 flying into other balls that can make another mess.

There is another option, but it requires good cb control and a pure stroke. You hit the 2 firm with extreme center left. The cb will hit the rail and spin back missing the 4 and go between the 5 and the side pocket to the rail, come off the rail to go across table for good position on the 3.

Why do that? A simple centerball punch give the cb a similar path to get to that side of the 3?


Eric
 
Neil said:
Because he asked for different options, and because a center ball punch shot will likely give you the scratch in the side.


The centerball punch doesnt scratch in the side if you are playing to make the 2. Its a lil less than a half ball hit.

If you try it on a table (regular size table, not a barbox), you'll see the similar path the cb takes. Also, by "hitting it firm", you are losing the 2 ball. If the 2 ball falls, great, if not, you probably need some luck to get safe.


Eric >let me know after you try it
 
Chris, when you were playing at the table, was there room for this center-left, or punch shot to work without hitting the 2 ball? If there was I would think you would've taken it. I looked at the cuetable layout and just assumed the cross-side bank, and the two-rail setups were both blocked (it just looks that way to me, I could definitely be wrong here).

I only saw two options: shoot the 2, and setup utilizing the 4, or play safe by trying to freeze the ball to the 4.
 
Chris_Lynch said:
Here's a situation I had a while back and I had someone argue with me as to how I played to get on the 3 ball here. I could've played safe of course but I liked the out here. I didn't get out but I stand by my original selection. I'll show that later. Any ideas from you guys?

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Another fun option is to hit the 2 ball head-on and draw the cueball straight back between the 6 & 5 to get it rolling toward the 3. The 2 ball looks like it will two rail into the bottom of the 9 sending the 2 towards the corner and who knows what may happen to the 9 :grin:. You have balls covering stuff up if the 2 doesn't go and creating distance if you miss and don't get a hook.

Anyway, just another thought/option. This is an interesting post.

Dave
 
The thing is no balls are tied and a text book safe is there it would be hard to not play it. But you mentioned you didn't want to safe so. I say hit the two as full as possible with low left and stay out of the 4 the more you hit the 4 the more likely it is to go across table and cause all kinds of problems. So I would take the route you took but would settle for a tougher angle on the 3 rather then using the 4 and disturbing an easily runnable layout. Additionally if the 2 hangs or settles on a rail my opponent has to not only get by the 4 that was left alone but he now has to figure out how to get shape on the 3 if he can see the 2 (I know we are playing to make the 2 but what if). If the 4 is such that contact is more likely then not even if you juice the cue ball be easy and settle for the cue ball going up table to just beyond the side pocket (keeping the movement of the 4 to a minimum) a natural safe is still likely if you miss the 2. The three is not froze on the rail so it shouldnt be that hard to make and shape on the 4 is natural.
 
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Neil said:
I don't have access to a 9' right now. It looks like the natural angle off the 2 with centerball will hit the 4. That is why I said a pure stroke and a lot of left. You can hit a little farther up the rail, and still spin back.

How are you going to get across the width of the table twice if you don't use a firm hit?? Unless you are using a real fast table.


Neil, t r y t h e s h o t.

Honestly, you don't need to pound it to get uptable (try it on your barbox for ho-ha's). It's a simple centerball or 1/2 tip below ctr punch. Hit the 2 with the right speed to bank it 1.5 times across the table.


Eric
 
Chris_Lynch said:
Here's a situation I had a while back and I had someone argue with me as to how I played to get on the 3 ball here. I could've played safe of course but I liked the out here. I didn't get out but I stand by my original selection. I'll show that later. Any ideas from you guys?

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I think that shot or close to it is in Black Jack's Lessons in 9 Ball.

Pete
 
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