How would you play this

Bob Jewett

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In case you have a jump stick, shoot the 1, as said above. If you manage to get anything like a stop shot it is moderately safe and if you make the ball you have position.
 

DAVE_M

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Some of the responses blow my mind. It's a bar table. Anyone who doesn't shoot the combo isn't trying to win. The safety is the right shot, but if the table rolls funny, it ain't happening.
 

Mickey Qualls

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Shoot the combo with follow, putting CB parallel with the 15.

- If the one goes, you've got the deuce to get on the 8
- If it doesn't, opponent has to bank it and earn the win

The other option, still shoot the combo, but hit the 2 rail first before the 1.

A harder stroke and a little luck may put the 2 between the 15 and CB's final position, taking away the opponent's bank if the 1 doesn't drop.
 

cubswin

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I considered the combo, leaving him the bank if I missed. I was fairly confident he would make the bank, as he hadn't missed any that day that I had noticed. I wasn't overly confident in the combo.

My shot of choice, was to play fairly aggressive. Did a jump shot, with a full cue, as I was confident in making the shot. Fall back was leaving him the bank. Did make the jump shot, and played out from there.

I looked at it for awhile, and just wasn't confident in making the combo, or with him missing the bank if I did miss.
 

Harold Smith

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APA Gene, the shot you would play is the same thing I saw. Do it right and you would get BIH for your next shot.--Smitty
 

naji

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Same thing, but may choose to cut the 2 a hair to roll the cb to about the 1. Good banker or not, a dead even middle of the rail bank from off a rail is about the best you're going to get from here, unless you've got precision accuracy for the spin behind the 8. Though, if you have that, you have the combo and shouldn't be asking this question.

surprised you did not say bank the 2 ball back (famouse english bank) your favorit shot?
 

speedy5963

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Honestly, I'd play this shot with draw and aim for the second diamond on the 8-ball side of the table. Try to freeze the CB to the rail and hide behind the 8. Plus, the angle you're hitting the two ball at would send it pretty close to the 15 as well.

I gotta get to a table and try this out.

It's a lot harder for me to table from the pic instead of at the table but there's also a safety where you thin the two ball and hit the CB with a little low right to freeze them together. It's a touchy touchy shot that I was shown by a AA and have practiced since then. This option looks available but it's still very hard to tell.

This was my thinking
 

Banks

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surprised you did not say bank the 2 ball back (famouse english bank) your favorit shot?

Against a good shooter, not unless i was on fire. I prefer to press my opponents if there's something on it. Nice look, though.
 

DJ14.1

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Softly hit the siderail first with the cueball. Then the cueball nudges the 2 and hits the siderail again for a lockup safe.
 

RingKing

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I also think the safety is not happening its leaving too much to chance to hit a delicate speed shot on an non-level table. The 2-1 combo is pretty much do or die I would shot it if I was feeling confident.

If not confident I might try kicking rail first into the 2 center draw on cue to stop cue.
Kick the 2 toward the corner pocket with good speed control to either make it or softly hit bottom rail. if you miss hopefully you block the hole forcing an odd angle bank for your opponent on the 15
 
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playdoubles

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You are solids, playing 8 ball. Cue ball doesn't go by the two, and the table has a bit of roll to it, and is a bar table. Just curious if anyone would have done something different than what I did.




1. The jumpy is a good option for a chance to stay at the table by pocketing the 1-ball OR leave a hard bank on the striped.

2. I like the shot from Grady (I've tried it a lot of times and it works pretty good) and bank the 2-ball to where whitey is now - passing the 1 two times very close with low right english!

3. You can play the 2 into the 1, as you would on a cross corner bank on the 1-ball (half ball hit). The 1 could block the striped on it's normal pocket and the 2 could block the corner bank or even the clear path to the striped!!
 

medallio

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If you're good at jumping you could play a jump stop shot. Make it you're out miss but stop it the opponent doesn't have good shot
 

RingKing

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not sure if we are playing call pocket or not but if not this is TWO IN ONE. Fire the 2 ball five rails toward the top left corner pocket hit cue with with force follow in order to run into the 1 possibly pocketing either the two or one and at least leaving a bank on 15

only shoot this if I have a couple of belts on
 

Bambu

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I like the combo with enough follow to hit the short rail. Follow is so much more accurate than a jump.....better control too.
 

Spimp13

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People saying play the safe on a table with a roll....GOOD LUCK. Let's see what new made up cuss words you use when you foul after it rolls off.

FTR I like the safe...on a level table.
 

DAVE_M

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People saying play the safe on a table with a roll....GOOD LUCK. Let's see what new made up cuss words you use when you foul after it rolls off.

FTR I like the safe...on a level table.

Too many dum-dum's on AzB to read that this is a bar table with a roll.

Anytime someone says it's a bar table with a roll, it's probably a Valley.

Anyone who doesn't shoot the combo on a Valley with a roll has never played on a Valley with a roll :grin:
 
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