https://www.youtube.com/@elflacobillarista ( Skinny Billiard)

I've been watching those Flaco Billar videos, there's a lot of really good stuff in there. I've come to find out you need to find the Spanish speakers for the good stuff.

I found this channel and this particular system. Somehow I never came across this one. It's so simple, easy to remember and execute, and it works well. I used it for the past hour or so and I'm kicking myself for not finding this before.

 
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A ticky system? I have this from Darrell Paul Martineau's book. His website is gone and I think he's pushing 90 if he's still with us so I don't think I'm stealing from him at this point.

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What's interesting is the side rail numbers are the same as the youtube system above for 3 rail shots, just shifted down one diamond based on the ball hit....or the the english...or something. Those side rail numbers are the most useful system of all.

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You get better at tickies by playing them often in practice, especially if you explore and discover, make yourself try out counterintuitive combinations of english and thickness. There's no such thing as a "system" for tickies.
 
There's no system for every ticky or every situation you're going to come across. But for basic tickies there obviously is a system, it's right there. I use it all the time, works really well. There are plenty of times I don't use it and just have to go on feel. But if I absolutely have to make the point below, I just use the system, I've used it thousands of times, I know exactly where the ball is going, right to 30 on the third rail. Why would I want to reinvent the wheel in the middle of a game with some counterintuitive mix of english and hit? A pro might to get better position or something. Me, I'll be satisfied with making a point.

We're not world class players here, Bert. Nobody has the time to devote three hours a day to practicing every possible iteration of ball hit and english on something that doesn't really come up all that often like tickies. It's a game I play for fun, and it's a tough game. I have more fun when I make points, and if I can remove one variable out of the ten you have to consider on every shot, I'll take the advantage. When I retire, I promise I'll work on playing by feel.

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There's no system for every ticky or every situation you're going to come across. But for basic tickies there obviously is a system, it's right there. I use it all the time, works really well. There are plenty of times I don't use it and just have to go on feel. But if I absolutely have to make the point below, I just use the system, I've used it thousands of times, I know exactly where the ball is going, right to 30 on the third rail. Why would I want to reinvent the wheel in the middle of a game with some counterintuitive mix of english and hit? A pro might to get better position or something. Me, I'll be satisfied with making a point.

We're not world class players here, Bert. Nobody has the time to devote three hours a day to practicing every possible iteration of ball hit and english on something that doesn't really come up all that often like tickies. It's a game I play for fun, and it's a tough game. I have more fun when I make points, and if I can remove one variable out of the ten you have to consider on every shot, I'll take the advantage. When I retire, I promise I'll work on playing by feel.

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I suggested you explore and discover in practice. In your quote, you do it in the middle of a match. There's a big difference.
 
There's no replacing starting to play at 8 years old and having a father who's a great player to teach you as well. Or just starting young and being surrounded by serious league players. Past 1940 or so, being born American pretty much guaranteed you not being a world class billiard player. You can't overcome that handicap. Someone can practice and practice and yet someone can practice all this and not be good.

Was anybody in the US in that time considered a world class player in today's terms? Was there anybody in those pre-heard of Ceulemans days that consistently averaged say, 1.5? Or even 1.0?

Look back at the US Champs in that era. Allen Gilbert was the national champ in 1968 with a .729 average. Mr. 3 Cushion said DPM was a 0.650-0.700 player. That would put him in the national top tier at the time. You can't really compare then and now, it's a completely different world. You don't see anybody in the US hitting 1.0 until Harry "All my play is using systems" Sims in the early 80s.

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You don't see any really high averages until almost 1990, and then of course the players are all foreign born.

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I don't really get the argument anway. Let's say I want to learn to golf. You're saying if I can't get Scottie Scheffler to teach me, there's no point in bothering with lessons? You can only learn from someone who's in the top 1%? If they're not a world class golfer there's no point in learning from them because obviously if they were any good they'd be world class?
 
Getting lessons personally from a pro or expert and watching videos with numbers and not being able to ask questions are completely different things
 
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