The ref should have kept their mouth shut. If you want tell him that's one thing but the ref should only be there to watch the hit.
Hypothetical Question - What would you do?
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The ref should have kept their mouth shut. If you want tell him that's one thing but the ref should only be there to watch the hit.
Agreed and an appeal to anyone above should have resulted in loss of game (and the ref being replaced) -assuming the guy truly was gong to take that shot.
Oh yeah it DEFINITELY matters against WHOM I'm playing and WHAT the event is.
During Nationals or any large tourney, never. And I do not expect to be told either.
If I'm playing someone that I know and they are an asshole...well you can figure that one out yourself.
But generally speaking, during league play, I feel like it is the sportsmanlike thing to inform your opponent if they are down on the wrong ball. As the league operator, I will never chastise someone for NOT telling their opponent, but I WILL praise someone if I see them do such a sportsmanlike thing.
During Nationals or any large tourney, never. And I do not expect to be told either.
If I'm playing someone that I know and they are an asshole...well you can figure that one out yourself.
But generally speaking, during league play, I feel like it is the sportsmanlike thing to inform your opponent if they are down on the wrong ball. As the league operator, I will never chastise someone for NOT telling their opponent, but I WILL praise someone if I see them do such a sportsmanlike thing.
If you are on a team, how can you stop someone from making a foul that affects your
whole team?
That is akin to giving comfort to the enemy.....if I was on your team, I may feel compelled
to follow you home just so I can kick your dog....:angry:
If you don’t have a dog, I would buy you one...give you a few days to get attached to it...
....THEN kick your dog....
How about just playing by the rules?
For me it all depends on who I am playing. There are some guys that are just asshats and do not deserve any common courtesy. There have been situations in league where a lower level or newer player is about to commit a foul, I have stopped them and explained what I thought their intentions were and why it would have been a foul then I also explain how they can legally shot the shot. Every time I have done this I was thanked by the player and their team mates too. Odds are if you have to point this stuff out to people they shouldnt be able to beat you, even if you help them.
That would be an illegal break (not foul) to not have the cue behind the line and the opponent has the option to re-rack and break or have you re-rack and break. However, without a spotter/ref there is no way to verify the cueball position after the break and the debate would favor the shooter. So the only real choice is to let them get away with it or notify them right away. Trying to get a foul out of a scenario like that would make you very unpopular. Also keep in mind the base of the call must be behind the line. So the edge of the ball may protrude over the line.
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I know "I'm just a dreamer..." and should be a realist:thumbup:
Classic :thumbup:
Ok, lets take this one step further. Your opponent is down on the shot, shooting the wrong ball. He is out of coaches or the league does not have coaches, either way.
His teammate yells out, hey, the 4 ball is next, not the 5.
Is that considered sportsmanship during league play? Would you go over and tell the teammate, excellent sir, great sportsmanship ? just curious?
If you are on a team, how can you stop someone from making a foul that affects your
whole team?
That is akin to giving comfort to the enemy.....if I was on your team, I may feel compelled
to follow you home just so I can kick your dog....:angry:
If you don’t have a dog, I would buy you one...give you a few days to get attached to it...
....THEN kick your dog....
How about just playing by the rules?
:rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1:
Spoken like a true gent that has lost more than a few bucks in some similar circumstance
The light's about to fall on your opponent's head.
Do you tell him?
The light's about to fall on your head; your opponent alerts you:
Do you thank him or accuse him of tainting your win.
Do you tell him?
The light's about to fall on your head; your opponent alerts you:
Do you thank him or accuse him of tainting your win.
Horrible comparison not to mention it would be outside interference and you get to re set up the shot and shoot over.
In our league there is absolutely no coaching. No timeouts. But there is a high level of sportsmanship. Many of our players would not hesitate to point this out to an opponent. Many would not. A lot does depend on the opponent and the circumstance.
BTW we do not use the BCAPL rule for illegal coaching (foul). If coaching occurs (or intentional distraction/sharking) the team gets one warning and if it happens again during the match it is loss of game. In my 15 years as L.O. no team has lost a game due to illegal coaching.
That is coaching and the rules governing coaching apply. This would be a foul given that it occurred from someone associated with the player. They might hope you’d be nice and let your opponent know. They might get angry if you’re not nice about it. But they can’t help him plan his shot, including to avoid an obvious foul.
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Yeah!!! Even if your head is bleeding!!!
I think it's a pretty good comparison.
Does the player shoot over from the ambulance or from the emergency room?
A true ethical compass says you tell the opponent if has lost his way--if he's that unaware, he likely won't beat you--and live with it if you're so unaware you shoot the wrong ball!
Horrible-One is about calling your opponent's attention to a possible RULE violation and the other is about warning someone against possible physical injury. Nothing to do with one and other and im not discussing this silliness further.
If you reduce it further, you'll see that they do.