Well, at nine ball some people feel a totally whiffed break shot should be something other than ball in hand anywhere with a full rack. Some want a rebreak. I think the rule is fine as it is. It occurs rarely and tests the other player's knowledge. And maybe the ref.Foul's a foul, why differentiate??
I recall a recent loss in that situation when the fouler hit the one ball on the kick but then scratched for the third foul.Pretty sure Joshua Filler won a frame on the 3 fouls rule once when the first foul was the other player miscueing on the break.
I recall a recent loss in that situation when the fouler hit the one ball on the kick but then scratched for the third foul.