I dont get it??

Jack Madden said:
Eighty some posts generated by one young person wanting to know more about pool!! I think we have a lot of passionate pool players out there who subconsciously read the language in the post and felt that here was a youngster who needed to pay attention to his schooling since us old timers would have surely failed English class if we wrote like that. And for me - my initially reaction was to join in telling him/her to spend more time with his school work. Pool is a passion /obsession for me and has been since I was 11-12 yrs old probably because I played too many hours and got too good too young. (hooked!!) For me a lot of life decisions have been made based on that passion. Life may have been a lot easier financially if the passion for pool came later in life. And I think that is what was trying to be expressed. Kid, do good in school - you have all the rest of your life to play good pool if you have the passion for it.
John Madden
www.johnmaddencues.com


Thank you John.....and thank you Jesus. That's definitely where I was coming from right from the beginning. And I guess you could say that I "started this mess". Very well said.........
 
chefjeff said:
If I was your editor and you came to me with your original post, above, I'd fire you on the spot. Over 30 English errors!...from a journalism student, no less! That's why I laughed. Sorry, no harm intended; the irony of it just made me laugh out loud, so I posted. I'm not trying to embarass you, I promise.

This has been nagging me for some time, and I wonder if you could help me here:
Is there some reason young people use the small cap "i" vs. the proper "I"? Was that part of your schooling, that resulted in your admirable grade point average (way above mine, btw), or did you just pick that up on your own, or...? I'm really curious about this and would like an answer if you have one.

I see the small "i" being misused quite often lately. I sense it as being part of an integrated policy of the schools dismissing the value of the self, but maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Jeff Livingston


Ok, so now I need to type my posts out in Word first? I can spell, my typing abilities however arent the best. Couple that with the crappiest keyboard known to man (one in the UNR library at the time) and the fact that I was rushing to make the post before I took off for my next class.
If it was actually to be published I would have spell-checked and proof read it. For something casual like this, its not the highest priority.
 
Alright im sick and tire about reading this crap, I REALY like people stiring the water but I really dont think anyones right in this. If Archer or Reyes or whoever didnt play when they were to short than we wouldnt be hereing about them. And if I didnt play when I should have read some books than I could buy the new mustang I want. The best advice to this kid (if he is still even reading this thread) is just play. Take some lessons from a good instuctor. And treat it as a hobby. DONT put it in front of things like school.
Im not saying you have or that you need to make strait A's. BUT ITS JUST A GAME. Few make a living out of it. THOUSANDS more make a good time out of it. And being this young getting started you can do very well even if you dont devote all your hours to thinking about it.

Just get threw school play/practice the right way.

Go to College or dont, that will be your choice.

Talk to you then.

Hope to hear from you some more.
 
chefjeff said:
If I was your editor and you came to me with your original post, above, I'd fire you on the spot. Over 30 English errors!...from a journalism student, no less! That's why I laughed. Sorry, no harm intended; the irony of it just made me laugh out loud, so I posted. I'm not trying to embarass you, I promise.

This has been nagging me for some time, and I wonder if you could help me here:
Is there some reason young people use the small cap "i" vs. the proper "I"? Was that part of your schooling, that resulted in your admirable grade point average (way above mine, btw), or did you just pick that up on your own, or...? I'm really curious about this and would like an answer if you have one.

I see the small "i" being misused quite often lately. I sense it as being part of an integrated policy of the schools dismissing the value of the self, but maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Jeff Livingston

Hi Jeff. I think we're in a new era of communication, that's all. Time is money, so people are choosing to write as they speak. Penmanship and prescision have been replaced with expediency. In today's world, there's more communication via email, than through formal letter. I hope you agree. Email, right or wrong, is seen to be more casual, just as the clothing we can now wear in a business environment. In Asia, for instance, text messaging through cell phones is very popular. Customers are charged by the number of characters in their messages. So, if you can eliminate keystrokes and use acronyms, you'll minimize expense. Capitalizing letters requires another keystroke. That requires time. Gone are the days we had that luxury. Remember, we are dealing with a global community. English, for more and more, will be a second language. Embrase the new use of the English language and allow it to adapt to the times. I am not suggesting that you dispense with your disciplined style of writing. I admire it, but be careful not to sum a person's thoughts with their writing style. chrz:D
 
Top Spin said:
Hi Jeff. I think we're in a new era of communication, that's all. Time is money, so people are choosing to write as they speak. Penmanship and prescision have been replaced with expediency. In today's world, there's more communication via email, than through formal letter. I hope you agree. Email, right or wrong, is seen to be more casual, just as the clothing we can now wear in a business environment. In Asia, for instance, text messaging through cell phones is very popular. Customers are charged by the number of characters in their messages. So, if you can eliminate keystrokes and use acronyms, you'll minimize expense. Capitalizing letters requires another keystroke. That requires time. Gone are the days we had that luxury. Remember, we are dealing with a global community. English, for more and more, will be a second language. Embrase the new use of the English language and allow it to adapt to the times. I am not suggesting that you dispense with your disciplined style of writing. I admire it, but be careful not to sum a person's thoughts with their writing style. chrz:D


Good point!!
 
Top Spin said:
I admire it, but be careful not to sum a person's thoughts with their writing style. chrz:D

Top Spin,
I would certainly agree that anyone has the right to write anyway they want. Readers also have the right to judge writers anyway they want. I think you will find however, that most readers WILL judge posts and posters by the way they write. If a poster wants more credit for education, intelligence, and coherence; they can't just demand it, they will have to earn it. If they think so little of the readers that they won't spend the time to press a caps key, then I don't think the readers have any obligation to cut them any slack. JMO

P.S. - I will say that I have picked up lots of useful information here from people with horrific writing styles - I don't want to be part of the "grammar police."
 
Celtic said:
Be glad that language evolves or else we would still be grunting at each other and using basic hand gestures, which would be very hard to work into a message board such as this. The language we speak would be almost unrecognizable to people speaking "english" 1000 years ago. This is not a negative, if anything the invention of the printing press and globalisation has caused language to become alot more static and less apt to change. No longer can regionalization cause new languages to form, and new words must not only form over time to become part of a language, they must be accepted into the language bible, aka the dictionary.

Yes, that's true - language does evolve over time, which is the sign of a "living" language (as opposed to a "dead" one, like Latin), but I hate to see it devolve. The "shudder to think" line pertaining to the dictionary was meant to be facetious, for the words people use and the way they use them in any age should be recorded. But there is a difference between language changing with the times and being corrupted. When people fail to capitalize "I" or conjugate verbs (such as "to be") out of sheer laziness, that's not good for the language. Unfortunately, I believe Top Spin is right and this is the direction English is headed. :(
 
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