I love 9-ball but...

Moe Szyslak said:
I noticed watching the American vs. British versions of the Gordon Ramsey show where he goes to try and save a failing restaurant - the British show focuses on, you know, the failing restaurant and why it's failing. The American show, every time, cooks up some phony ass "family conflict" plotline where "the father can't give up control to his son" or something. I don't know, maybe people eat this stuff up. I can't stand it. If I'm watching the Olympics I can't turn the channel fast enough when they go to, 'Mary Smith grew up in...."

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It’s reality TV masquerading as a sporting event...that the broadcasts are overtaken by contrived sob stories about some skier whose third cousin has leprosy.
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my significant other watches those american cooking talent shows and it's unbearable. the worst were the tattoo shows, lol. "my uncle died earlier this year and he liked dragons". no you just wanted a fking dragon tattoo. but i have never seen it in sports and my hunch is that the sob story trend is fading.

definitely not a way forward for pool
 
Texas express 9 ball is the most illegitimate game ever designed...ad in the cheater rack and it's a full-blown joke to the entire gaming world.
 
Mowem down said:
Texas express 9 ball is the most illegitimate game ever designed...ad in the cheater rack and it's a full-blown joke to the entire gaming world.
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You realize you're contradicting your intentions here... Of course I am assuming your whining about the use of templates, (which are designed to freeze all the balls together).
 
The_JV said:
Holy crap, screw the rest of this thread. This is literally in my +35yrs of speaking the bolded phrase have I ever heard anyone else use it. We must have picked it up from some TV show or the like. Can you remember a time when you first heard someone use that turn of phrase...?

No way we both constructed it from thin air....lol

Oh ya, and 9 ball is fine. Nothing broken, move on
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As a University of Alabama alum, one of our greatest, said this in '65...not underwater, but...

When Joe Namath signed with the Jets he did his first press conference in New York.
A smart mouthed writer asked him, "Did you major in basket weaving at Alabama"?

Without batting an eye, Namath immediately responded, "No, I started out majoring in basket weaving but it was way too difficult. So I changed my major to journalism".

Namath, a legendary football player, was known for his outspoken personality and confidence. He played college football for the Alabama Crimson Tide, where he won the national championship as a senior, and was selected by the Jets first overall in the 1965 AFL draft.
 
All the advances in billiards technology make the game easier.

The rack is tighter than ever, the felt is great, the balls are perfectly round and balanced, the tables are super accurate and the cues are designed to reduce deflection, add power and improve performance.

The players also get really good, better than ever. 50 years ago the masters kept the game secrets to themselves; nowadays everything is out in the open and free online. Players have a great understanding of the physics of the game.

So the players get better, the equipment gets better and the game becomes easier.

The game has to become harder!

Don't look to make the current game harder; maybe it's time for a different game. Maybe 9-foot tables are too easy; maybe the pros should move to a 12-foot table. Maybe instead of 9 or 10 balls, use all 15 balls.
 
skor said:
All the advances in billiards technology make the game easier.

The rack is tighter than ever, the felt is great, the balls are perfectly round and balanced, the tables are super accurate and the cues are designed to reduce deflection, add power and improve performance.

The players also get really good, better than ever. 50 years ago the masters kept the game secrets to themselves; nowadays everything is out in the open and free online. Players have a great understanding of the physics of the game.

So the players get better, the equipment gets better and the game becomes easier.

The game has to become harder!

Don't look to make the current game harder; maybe it's time for a different game. Maybe 9-foot tables are too easy; maybe the pros should move to a 12-foot table. Maybe instead of 9 or 10 balls, use all 15 balls.
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i'd rather they shortened the shot clock before going any of those routes. i don't think it's too easy now though. filler is a freak, and the euro open result isn't something we see very often
 
skogstokig said:
i'd rather they shortened the shot clock before going any of those routes. i don't think it's too easy now though. filler is a freak, and the euro open result isn't something we see very often
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I see a lot of break and runs during the PLP.

If you want to keep the game in 1950 then keep everything in 1950, 9balls had different rule before texas express and there were no jump cues, no break cues no low deflection shafts, ball were not perfect and a triangle was used to rack and it wasn't perfect but it made the break more un-predictable and the game harder.

Look at snooker; yeah, the tables and balls got a bit better, but everything else stayed the same as it was 50 years ago... the players got better as well, but the game is still hard, and it's very rare that a player runs out in one visit to the table.
 
We saw in the DCC how sensitive the break rules are to being figured out. Slightly wider break box, and Filler figured out he could make the wing ball and play shape on the 1-ball and it was curtains after that.

Nobody has “broken” the existing 9 on the spot, narrow break box format that Matchroom uses despite more incentive than ever to do so. What we consistently see is that the best break slightly better than the rest of the top players, but are still reliant on some good fortune to get a shot after the break.
 
skor said:
Look at snooker; yeah, the tables and balls got a bit better, but everything else stayed the same as it was 50 years ago... the players got better as well, but the game is still hard, and it's very rare that a player runs out in one visit to the table.
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wow that's a stupid comparison... 9 shots (excluding break) in a game that designed to be aggressive .vs. 37 shots on harder equipment in a game strategic in nature.
 
The_JV said:
wow that's a stupid comparison... 9 shots (excluding break) in a game that designed to be aggressive .vs. 37 shots on harder equipment in a game strategic in nature.
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as you said - harder
why not find a way to make pool harder? there are pool games that require more strategic.
Why just 9 balls? why not 15 balls or 21 balls... where is the rush? it's not on TV anymore where the viewer might switch channel and there is a need for commercial breaks.
 
skor said:
as you said - harder
why not find a way to make pool harder? there are pool games that require more strategic.
Why just 9 balls? why not 15 balls or 21 balls... where is the rush? it's not on TV anymore where the viewer might switch channel and there is a need for commercial breaks.
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They are making it harder. You're allowing yourself to be convinced there's something wrong with using outliner examples of insanely dominate play. If everyone as doing what Filler did the last time out. Then there'd be an argument to have. That's simply not the case. The last example of ridiculous dominate play I can remember was Ko's semi-final win at the USopen a couple years back.

Screw TV, it's worse now... YT and if you like the dead air between shots, then streaming in general. I watch all the action of 2hr matches in under 15mins hammering on the FF key. Pool was made to be watched via replay.
 
The_JV said:
They are making it harder. You're allowing yourself to be convinced there's something wrong with using outliner examples of insanely dominate play. If everyone as doing what Filler did the last time out. Then there'd be an argument to have. That's simply not the case. The last example of ridiculous dominate play I can remember was Ko's semi-final win at the USopen a couple years back.

Screw TV, it's worse now... YT and if you like the dead air between shots, then streaming in general. I watch all the action of 2hr matches in under 15mins hammering on the FF key. Pool was made to be watched via replay.
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Do you remember the 7Ball tournaments on ESPN? I guess even 9 balls were too many and too slow for TV (before shot clock for men).
That was ridiculous... and 9 balls is not that far behind, a fast hustlers game should not be the choice of pros, there are 15 balls in a set, use them all.
 
The_JV said:
I watch all the action of 2hr matches in under 15mins hammering on the FF key. Pool was made to be watched via replay.
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same with me, and of course i will re-watch some shots multiple times

for example where exactly did the ball go
how still is the head, sholder, elbow, cue tip after delivery
can i see their eyes
how did it sound
was the pre shot routine any different
where did the cue tip strike the cue ball
the timing, etc etc
 
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