I love to practice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bbb]

i love to practice
lets say im an apa 5-6
(if im better than i think lets say apa 4-5)
i havent done fargo in a while but i averaged 60-70 9-12 months ago
ive improved since then
i can practice at most 1 hour a few time a week
on the weeekend i can play or practice 2-3 hours per day
how would you structure my table time??

 

[softshot]

1 hour 3 times a week

day 1 mechanics

worry about you... break everything apart..video record your practice.. showing your stroking arm...breakdown your video each week and refine your style.. shoot in super slow motion with 2 seconds between each movement..shoot hard, shoot soft, hit high, hit low, hit with left , hit with right...spend that hour each week trying to make every variation look exactly the same..keep refining your stroke that way.. perhaps post some video here to get started on the right foot...

finish by breaking 15 racks.. 5 with the CB in the center of the table.. 5 from the right side.. and 5 from the left side..each week change the rack.. 1 week 8ball... then 9ball then 10 ball.. then start over again

day 2 alignment and slide zone..

stop shot line cb on the head string with a straight line of hole reinforcers 1 at each diamond distance 1-5 into the far corner pocket.. shoot 10 balls at each distance attempting to stop your Cb with the least possible force..


day 3 aiming and PSR

take 5 hole reinforces place 1 at the exact center of the tableand the other four in a straight line towards the same side pocket.. they should all be on the same side of the table...and each time you do this drill put them in slightly different spots such that over time you hit every possible spot on that line..

put the cb on the dot closest to the side pocket... place your object ball on the foot spot 5 times .. and on the head spot 5 times and then move the CB to the next spot.. vary your spin..but keep it the same for the day..all shots with follow today.. next week do stun.. then draw.. then slow roll..

focus on shooting every shot exactly the same way .. start by standing with your foot on the line from the OB to the pocket..and note everything you do from that point until the ball is in the hole..follow it.. write it down...cut out unnecessary steps ....build a Pre Shot Routine

day 4 weekend.. break 5 racks and and bank every ball until they are all gone.. then break 5 racks and kick every ball until they are all gone..

spend the rest of the time playing someone...preferably someone a little better than you

I hope this information doesn't destroy your family

 

[bbb]

1 hour 3 times a week

day 1 mechanics

worry about you... break everything apart..video record your practice.. showing your stroking arm...breakdown your video each week and refine your style.. shoot in super slow motion with 2 seconds between each movement..shoot hard, shoot soft, hit high, hit low, hit with left , hit with right...spend that hour each week trying to make every variation look exactly the same..keep refining your stroke that way.. perhaps post some video here to get started on the right foot...

finish by breaking 15 racks.. 5 with the CB in the center of the table.. 5 from the right side.. and 5 from the left side..each week change the rack.. 1 week 8ball... then 9ball then 10 ball.. then start over again

day 2 alignment and slide zone..

stop shot line cb on the head string with a straight line of hole reinforcers 1 at each diamond distance 1-5 into the far corner pocket.. shoot 10 balls at each distance attempting to stop your Cb with the least possible force..


day 3 aiming and PSR

take 5 hole reinforces place 1 at the exact center of the tableand the other four in a straight line towards the same side pocket.. they should all be on the same side of the table...and each time you do this drill put them in slightly different spots such that over time you hit every possible spot on that line..

put the cb on the dot closest to the side pocket... place your object ball on the foot spot 5 times .. and on the head spot 5 times and then move the CB to the next spot.. vary your spin..but keep it the same for the day..all shots with follow today.. next week do stun.. then draw.. then slow roll..

focus on shooting every shot exactly the same way .. start by standing with your foot on the line from the OB to the pocket..and note everything you do from that point until the ball is in the hole..follow it.. write it down...cut out unnecessary steps ....build a Pre Shot Routine

day 4 weekend.. break 5 racks and and bank every ball until they are all gone.. then break 5 racks and kick every ball until they are all gone..

spend the rest of the time playing someone...preferably someone a little better than you

I hope this information doesn't destroy your family[/QUOTE]

no family at present time

 

[bbb]

im not sure what to make of the fact that only one person...( THANKS SOFTSHOT:thumbup: )...responded to helping a student that is willing to put in the time to improve
i would have thought i would have been the type of student you would have wanted to give advice to
or at least make some comments

 

[ENGLISH!]

Kinda makes U wonder.

im not sure what to make of the fact that only one person...( THANKS SOFTSHOT:thumbup: )...responded to helping a student that is willing to put in the time to improve
i would have thought i would have been the type of student you would have wanted to give advice to
or at least make some comments

bbb,

I would ditto that. Kinda makes U wonder.

I don't practice & really never did unless a specific problem popped up & then I would quickly work it out & get back to playing.

Well I guess that's not totally true. Whenever I can not find a game I just play both sides of the ball including safties if needed. Ive just found that working a game situation seems to be the best for me. It's working your mind as well as the mechanics.

Good Luck & Best Wishes.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Well I can only speak for myself, but this past week I have not spent a lot of time on this board. Been busy with other things, not related to pool or AZ. Yesterday was in fact a crazy day starting at 6:00 am and finishing at 9:30 p.m. with a small break for lunch/dinner. I was going through lessons and exams in router configurations for placement into a Cisco training program. My whole week was in fact, spending a lot of time boning up in prep for this work.

BBB just wondering, did you go through SPF with Scott Lee, he would have discussed with you a practice routine.

If not, my bad.

 

[bbb]

Well I can only speak for myself, but this past week I have not spent a lot of time on this board. Been busy with other things, not related to pool or AZ. Yesterday was in fact a crazy day starting at 6:00 am and finishing at 9:30 p.m. with a small break for lunch/dinner. I was going through lessons and exams in router configurations for placement into a Cisco training program. My whole week was in fact, spending a lot of time boning up in prep for this work.

BBB just wondering, did you go through SPF with Scott Lee, he would have discussed with you a practice routine.

If not, my bad.

tony you were very helpful to me
i will always remember that
and i want to thank you again for your time and expertise
my time with scott was great with mechanics,spf and the mother drills
we didnt get much beyond stroke fundamentals

an interesting off subject sort of observation
the "stroke mechanics " i got the impression many of them look at taking a lesson from a pro on how to play ie game strategies ,patterns,shots etc as not helpfull if you cant deliver the cue tip to an intended spot with intended speed
on command...,under pressure ....first time
and i agree that if someone wants to improve focusing on fundamentals to develop the consistency and quality of your stroke is important

but we all want to be better PLAYERS not strokers even tho you need one(better strokes) to get the other(be a better player)
so i still do mother drills and stroke exersises because i still have a ways to go in the stroke production department
but i also need to practice drills, play the ghost to develop skills etc to learn to make shots and move the cue ball to specific targets so i am in line for the next shot
rail shots and banks are another area i need to work on
so thats was why i started this thread
for a PLAN to improve

 

[softshot]

if you want strategy help you have TONS of options... you can play... you can watch uncountable videos of pro's on youtube...you can take a lesson with a pro... you can find the dennis walsh/ Danny Dileberto 14.1 lessons...my personal recommendation..

knowing what to do and being able to do it are two different things...

regimented practice is what makes a person able to do it..

one is fun... the other is work...

both are necessary to make any kind of player out of yourself...

 

[Ratta]

tony you were very helpful to me
i will always remember that
and i want to thank you again for your time and expertise
my time with scott was great with mechanics,spf and the mother drills
we didnt get much beyond stroke fundamentals

an interesting off subject sort of observation
the "stroke mechanics " i got the impression many of them look at taking a lesson from a pro on how to play ie game strategies ,patterns,shots etc as not helpfull if you cant deliver the cue tip to an intended spot with intended speed
on command...,under pressure ....first time
and i agree that if someone wants to improve focusing on fundamentals to develop the consistency and quality of your stroke is important

but we all want to be better PLAYERS not strokers even tho you need one(better strokes) to get the other(be a better player)
so i still do mother drills and stroke exersises because i still have a ways to go in the stroke production department
but i also need to practice drills, play the ghost to develop skills etc to learn to make shots and move the cue ball to specific targets so i am in line for the next shot
rail shots and banks are another area i need to work on
so thats was why i started this thread
for a PLAN to improve

Well,

i personally prefer to force every student *to monitor* his results. Each practice drill i let a student work on has to be noticed. No matter it s a static drill, a dynamic drill- an endless drill etc. ect.
Each has to be measurable. So that he can see (and me of course also) and observe his learning curve.
Then the balance between playing and pure practice have to be found. I know several guys, who have excellent fundamentals-but still having problems *to put it together*- that s why i love also to recommend endless drills because here the student has to put several things together-and keeps him making balls over and over again. There s nothing better than making many balls. This also helps to increase the mental stamina.

jmho

Ingo

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Becoming a "better player" is like a final exam. All of the practice that has been done to the point in stroke mechanics, PSR, aiming are part of it. The additional aspects of strategy, and handling pressure are also going to be a big part in becoming a successful player.


As been mentioned, watching videos of pros playing the games of your choice are great for the strategy part. I especially like the videos in which the shooter is describing the play on the table, to gain insights into their thought process.

Handling pressure is the tough one, and I am convinced that this is an acquired skill that you have to develop to be successful when in action. Sure there are reams of material written about this but in my opinion, you only learn how to handle pressure by putting yourself into those situations. By putting yourself in these situations will enable you to identify how you deal with pressure, and then learn how to manage it. Hopefully the hours of practice you have in developing your PSR will help you become more automatic, but trust me the pressure will be there and it will creep from your mind to your stroking arm. Handling it is your internal battle that only you will be able to answer.

So my advice is simple. Carve out some time during the week to observe the best players playing the game, and match up with players (especially those who are a little better than you). Play for something, you have to have something on the line to increase the pressure on yourself.

 

[JuicyGirl]

i love to practice
lets say im an apa 5-6
(if im better than i think lets say apa 4-5)
i havent done fargo in a while but i averaged 60-70 9-12 months ago
ive improved since then
i can practice at most 1 hour a few time a week
on the weeekend i can play or practice 2-3 hours per day
how would you structure my table time??

This sounds like me! Thanks for the thread BBB

 

[Scott Lee]

Larry...That's true for the first lesson, but not the second. I showed you several advanced drills. Are you able to perform any of them, in one try yet?
They contain all the necessary elements for playing at a high level. Remember when you asked me to show you what you called "turbo speed" follow on the CB? Are you able to duplicate that stroke yet? I left you with a plan, that included the suggestion of getting into combat on a regular basis.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

my time with scott was great with mechanics,spf and the mother drills
we didnt get much beyond stroke fundamentals
an interesting off subject sort of observation
the "stroke mechanics " i got the impression many of them look at taking a lesson from a pro on how to play ie game strategies ,patterns,shots etc as not helpfull if you cant deliver the cue tip to an intended spot with intended speed
on command...,under pressure ....first time
and i agree that if someone wants to improve focusing on fundamentals to develop the consistency and quality of your stroke is important

but we all want to be better PLAYERS not strokers even tho you need one(better strokes) to get the other(be a better player)
so i still do mother drills and stroke exersises because i still have a ways to go in the stroke production department
but i also need to practice drills, play the ghost to develop skills etc to learn to make shots and move the cue ball to specific targets so i am in line for the next shot
rail shots and banks are another area i need to work on
so thats was why i started this thread
for a PLAN to improve

 

[bbb]

Larry...That's true for the first lesson, but not the second. I showed you several advanced drills. Are you able to perform any of them, in one try yet?
They contain all the necessary elements for playing at a high level. Remember when you asked me to show you what you called "turbo speed" follow on the CB? Are you able to duplicate that stroke yet? I left you with a plan, that included the suggestion of getting into combat on a regular basis.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

i am able to get the cue ball to turbo charged now
not like you but on command first time under pressure
im up to 5-6 balls for run outs 15 or greater out of 20 where it doesnt count if i run out because i could shoot my way out from getting out of position
i beat a really good player in 9 ball at the pool hall saturday
lost the first set 7-2 won the next set 7-2 and won the tie breaker 3-1
i know he was playing loose since we were only playing for time
but if he left me with 4 balls i was out
i had 1 break and run out
need to work on my break as i dont practice that much
hey juicy girl
i had to do a 3 rail kick twice in one game which i made both times because of the diamond system(corner 5)..so practice what i sent you
gee scott you got me bragging......:embarrassed2:

to answer your question
the progressive drills in part 2 i still need to improve and got away from practicing them
but game or position oriented exercises like wagon wheel have really helped me too
im intrigued by SAM but havent mastered 3 from 4 (i know guess 3)
ill call you to fininsh this post

i want to again thank you for your time ,knowledge ,and enthusiasm
and putting up with me sometimes disagreeing with you or at least explaining how I saw it and then you showing me and explaining the right way
as i said in the thread fundamentals are very important

 

[Scott Lee]

No problem my friend. Just remember, application under pressure comes from total trust in your stroke. The Grid, The Circle, and the Rail Drills are the advanced drills I mentioned, that have all the aspects required for high level competitive play. I just didn't want people to think that I didn't give you a plan to follow, to reach your goals...which I got to be the gist of this thread. I can show you things...I can't make you practice them! Congratulations on your victory...even if it was "just for time"...it's still a victory, and believe me when I tell you the guy went home feeling 'bad' for losing. You still need more competition to test yourself. Get into some tournaments.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

i am able to get the cue ball to turbo charged now
not like you but on command first time under pressure
im up to 5-6 balls for run outs 15 or greater out of 20 where it doesnt count if i run out because i could shoot my way out from getting out of position
i beat a really good player in 9 ball at the pool hall saturday
lost the first set 7-2 won the next set 7-2 and won the tie breaker 3-1
i know he was playing loose since we were only playing for time
but if he left me with 4 balls i was out
i had 1 break and run out
need to work on my break as i dont practice that much
hey juicy girl
i had to do a 3 rail kick twice in one game which i made both times because of the diamond system(corner 5)..so practice what i sent you
gee scott you got me bragging......:embarrassed2:

to answer your question
the progressive drills in part 2 i still need to improve and got away from practicing them
but game or position oriented exercises like wagon wheel have really helped me too
im intrigued by SAM but havent mastered 3 from 4 (i know guess 3)
ill call you to fininsh this post

i want to again thank you for your time ,knowledge ,and enthusiasm
and putting up with me sometimes disagreeing with you or at least explaining how I saw it and then you showing me and explaining the right way
as i said in the thread fundamentals are very important

 

[bbb]

No problem my friend. Just remember, application under pressure comes from total trust in your stroke. The Grid, The Circle, and the Rail Drills are the advanced drills I mentioned, that have all the aspects required for high level competitive play. I just didn't want people to think that I didn't give you a plan to follow, to reach your goals...which I got to be the gist of this thread. I can show you things...I can't make you practice them! Congratulations on your victory...even if it was "just for time"...it's still a victory, and believe me when I tell you the guy went home feeling 'bad' for losing. You still need more competition to test yourself. Get into some tournaments.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

scott
i forgot about those......:embarrassed2::embarrassed2:
ill have to look in my notebook to be sure i wrote them down

 

[JuicyGirl]

hey juicy girl
i had to do a 3 rail kick twice in one game which i made both times because of the diamond system(corner 5)..so practice what i sent you

Did I tell you using the diamond system I made one public during my match. Jaws fell to the floor. Everyone knew exactly where I was going. Awesome feeling! Not bad for a 2
Thanks again

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