I need a ring

[Dave38]

I was wondering if anyone would have a ring like this? It is 1/4" thick. It's an old Adams cue that my buddy wants a shaft made. I went to start making it tonite and realized that it has 8 slots, and my index on my lathe has 60 holes, which is a problem when you divide 60 by 8 and get 7.5. Unless someone has a solution to use my lathe and come out symetrical. Any help, muchly appreciated
Dave

 

[rhncue]

I was wondering if anyone would have a ring like this? It is 1/4" thick. It's an old Adams cue that my buddy wants a shaft made. I went to start making it tonite and realized that it has 8 slots, and my index on my lathe has 60 holes, which is a problem when you divide 60 by 8 and get 7.5. Unless someone has a solution to use my lathe and come out symetrical. Any help, muchly appreciated
Dave
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Dave, you need to get a cheap indexer such as one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/5C-PRECISION-SP...5430859QQihZ014QQcategoryZ25297QQcmdZViewItem

For a number of years I used one of these that I would mount on the back of my lathe to the spindle when cutting pockets for deco-rings. Later, I set up a lathe just for cutting these and mounted one of these to the bed, in line with the tail stock so that I could use the power feed to cut the slots while the lathe was running. Now I do them on a CNC Gantry mill. Many years ago I took a large plastic degree wheel and taped it to the back of my chuck with a pointer so that I could manually index down to 1 deg..

You say that you need a ring .250 thick but how wide are the white inlaid pieces. I have tubes of this in a number of different inlay widths.

Dick

 

[Cue Crazy]

Dave, you need to get a cheap indexer such as one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/5C-PRECISION-SP...5430859QQihZ014QQcategoryZ25297QQcmdZViewItem

For a number of years I used one of these that I would mount on the back of my lathe to the spindle when cutting pockets for deco-rings. Later, I set up a lathe just for cutting these and mounted one of these to the bed, in line with the tail stock so that I could use the power feed to cut the slots while the lathe was running. Now I do them on a CNC Gantry mill. Many years ago I took a large plastic degree wheel and taped it to the back of my chuck with a pointer so that I could manually index down to 1 deg..

You say that you need a ring .250 thick but how wide are the white inlaid pieces. I have tubes of this in a number of different inlay widths.

Dick

I have one of those, it's even the same color too I think I have a couple of 5C collets around for It, and a 3 jaw chuck with 5C arbor to fit it. I don't have a tailstock for It though. I was thinking of setting it up on the mill for cutting slots.

 

[DaveK]

... I don't have a tailstock for It though...

Be sure to have your butt firmly in a chair when you go shopping for one ... they seem to be priced much higher than the indexer ... when you can find one that is

I couldn't think of any reasonable way to index 8 positions with 60 holes, although it might be possible to make a 'vernier' plunger for it (a single 1/2 hole offset plu sthe original would do for indexing 8), but that won't help you tonight.

Dave

 

[Dave38]

You say that you need a ring .250 thick but how wide are the white inlaid pieces. I have tubes of this in a number of different inlay widths.

Dick

Actually, Dick, I looked it over good and took careful measurements and found that both the shaft collar and joint collar have the same size black, and the white is different from one collar to another. That leads me to believe they used a white rod and inlaid black strips. The strips are .105 and the white, I believe is .225 on the shaft collar.
My Jet mini wood lathe has an indexing head on it, and I'm looking at how to run my dremel or a lam trimmer along it to cut the slots. I ran out of time tonite, so I'll tackle it again when I get home tomorrow. Thanks.
Dave

 

[Cue Crazy]

Wouldn't every 15th hole make a 4 position indexing? Might not be the easiest thing, but might be able to buzz 4 slots, measure between 2 slots, mark It off, then re position the billet in the jaws centered with the mark, and buzz 4 more. I know it's something we would all try to avoid, and risky, but it is possible. I once marked positioning out on a wood lathe indexer in pencil, then mounted it in a cheap milling slide with the vise on top to a drill press. I had to line each slot up and clamp it, and it took alot repositioning before going under power each time to pull it off, but it worked. It would be much easier to only have to reposition 1 time and get it right. just thought, If the will overides the way.


Dave K- Your right on, those suckers are more then the indexer, probably the reason I haven't bought one yet . I've had that thing for about three years, and keep telling Myself I'm gonna use it someday. Greg

 

[pdcue]

I was wondering if anyone would have a ring like this? It is 1/4" thick. It's an old Adams cue that my buddy wants a shaft made. I went to start making it tonite and realized that it has 8 slots, and my index on my lathe has 60 holes, which is a problem when you divide 60 by 8 and get 7.5. Unless someone has a solution to use my lathe and come out symetrical. Any help, muchly appreciated
Dave

The caveman method requires a PERFECT square, like a turning square,
and a clever sharp pointer.

Turn one end of the square to a short cylinder you can grab with
the chuck jaws. The cylinder MUST be concentric with the sides
of the square.

Chop an inch or so block off the end of the square.

Layout centers, of the faces, and center lines on both square ends.

Glue, nail, or screw the 1 inch block back onto the square, perfectly
centered and rotated exactly 90 degrees.

If you put the round end in your chuck, the edges of the overlapping
squares will be at 45 degree intervals.

Rotate your chuck by hand till it hits on an edge<you might want
to make a 2 pronged pointer to rub on each square>
then cut a slot.

Lather, rinse, repeat 8 times.

Dale Pierce<the mother of invention>

 

[Thomas Wayne]

???

Are you sure that's an 8 repeat? Maybe it's just the photo, but it sure looks like 6 slots to me.

TW

 

[Dave38]

Are you sure that's an 8 repeat? Maybe it's just the photo, but it sure looks like 6 slots to me.

TW

Trust me I counted it 3 times myself I have set up my wood lathe with a fixture I was building into a rough looking inlay machine. I will post a pic later, it looks pretty hillbilly. It seemed to cut it good, I glued it up, now I have to wait for the glue to set. I used a white piece of ABS for the base material, and then used black linen strips. I found that the ABS is real brittle on all the edges. Is that the wrong material to use? Should I have used PVC?
Good idea Gregg, I may try this if this first one flops. Dale, I got lost on the second lathe,r I think I lost in the wash cloth.
Dave

 

[cueman]

Are you sure that's an 8 repeat? Maybe it's just the photo, but it sure looks like 6 slots to me.

TW

Hey Thomas,
Glad to see you posting here. You might want to check out the Cue Gallery thread called something like: Guess Who made it? as they are having an argument over whether you said something or not.

 

[pdcue]

Are you sure that's an 8 repeat? Maybe it's just the photo, but it sure looks like 6 slots to me.

TW

Well. I am assuming Dave can count.

If you read his post, he mentioned his 'plate' has 60 holes.

I also made the leap of faith he could divide by 6,
so if he needed 6 slots there wouldn't be any question.

Dale

 

[Mcues]

ring

Dave,


I have an old shaft with that ring work, IM your address and I'll send it to you.

Mario

 

[Dave38]

Dave,


I have an old shaft with that ring work, IM your address and I'll send it to you.

Mario

Thanks for the ring, perfect match.
Dave