Earl played with a Meucci that weighed under 17 oz's for years on SLOW cloth when he was a top 3 9 ball player in the world
I want the special Filler 12.4 Revo
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Earl played with a Meucci that weighed under 17 oz's for years on SLOW cloth when he was a top 3 9 ball player in the world
How light his cue is was definitely the biggest reveal in that video. I can't even imagine, and I used to play with a 17.7oz cue at one point.
I wonder how "custom" that shaft really is other than those markings. Since deflection is from mass at/near the tip, perhaps they had someone just sand a few microns of material away? And/or put on a slightly thinner
How do you know this? Have you played at a professional level and tried to switch cues before?
It seems from the video that Filler doesn't know how they made the special shaft, but basically they made him or his wife a custom 12.4 Revo that deflects like a Z shaft. Could just but lower weight but I doubt it.
The original 11.8 design was terrible and deflected a lot (be careful buying used stuff). Then they fixed the design by either changing the material or the thickness. The newer 11.8s are much stiffer and are ultra low deflection. I happened to come across a friend with an old 11.8 revo and compared an old one to a new one, flexing the shaft with my hands and there was an obvious difference.
it's all relative. for filler to play with a 16.6 oz is like kaci playing with a 22 oz
Almost every sponsored pro will go where the money is best. Ex. Cuetec has built a nice stable of pros that used to play with other cues. Sky went from meucci to cue tec, Fedor just switched to Whyte carbon (I think), etc.
If Mezz, (or any other company) made filler an offer he couldn't refuse, he would be playing with that cue next tourney. It doesn't make Mezz any better or predator any worse. Just the way sponsorships work.
I own several brands of carbon shafts. None of them are garbage. Which have you found are garbage?
Did you ask Predator? They built a custom Revo 12.4 for me. I wanted them to add more deflection. I wish I had asked for even more.
Well the lightest I've played with is 18 ounces.
I currently play with a cue over 66 inches and it's approx. 20.50 ounces.
I just haven't come across custom cues that light. It's a special order item.
I wonder what made him decided to play with a cue that light.
Probably because Filler himself weighs 16.6 oz, so he wants his cue to match.
that was my point haha. just skin and bones
Flakeandrun
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100% agree
and I would say the same as I said in this thread https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...ct-specialist-11-8-highest-deflection.561276/
"Does it really matter all that much? Are pros lying awake all night wondering about deflection, or throw? Or is it just you guys?
pretty sure they just adapt to the cue they play with? Then anything they have to say about it will be to sell you guys a few more cues..."Having a niché, or slightly different cue from the standard production serves two purposes. Getting you to pay more for custom nonsense, and yeah, it probably is more comfortable for him, for various reasons that won't apply to you. You could ride the placebo wave for a while though.
There's a reason why elite pool players and golfers rarely change equipment, so they don't have to think about it and play by instinct. SVB played with the same maple shaft for (I think) around the first half of his career until it just broke one day.100% agree
and I would say the same as I said in this thread https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...ct-specialist-11-8-highest-deflection.561276/
"Does it really matter all that much? Are pros lying awake all night wondering about deflection, or throw? Or is it just you guys?
Having a niché, or slightly different cue from the standard production serves two purposes. Getting you to pay more for custom nonsense, and yeah, it probably is more comfortable for him, for various reasons that won't apply to you. You could ride the placebo wave for a while though.
Anyone that thinks Filler can play with a high deflection shaft no problem clearly has no idea the large difference between, say a Cuetec carbon fiber or maple shaft, which are high deflection and something very low deflection like Z shaft or 11.8 Revo.
Yes they said "pro" custom features are not available to public
How did they add deflection? are you serious? lol
Yes but you can't get the shaft that Filler has. There's no "lower deflection like Filler" option sadly
Flakeandrun
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Exactly. As I mentioned in the thread, and have many times on this forum - a sticker is a sticker, a logo is a logo. Just like many other sports, (myself when playing cricket) you put whichever pays your cheques on the equipment. Like pros of many sports, they're probably using a custom, used by them for a long time, dolled up or replicated by whoever pays them (or they simply adjust and aren't affected all that much by the placebo that familiarity brings).
Snooker is a classic case in point, how many of these pros are using 20/30+ year old cues? Most. How many have had different sponsors in their career? Many. One of the things that irked me most, and led me to buying a custom pool cue rather than a production cue, was the utter nonsense that is marketing and branding in pool...
If someone is implying that top pros would really struggle switching from high to low deflection equipment, like it really makes all that much difference, or whatever other nonsense gimmick comes up next in this game... They are a delusional victim of consumerism. A top flight pro could pick up a broom handle and beat most people...
Yes, we all have preference, yes we all have quirks, yes we are all fallible and look for any benign reason to amend that.
Edit* word choice - infallible should have been fallible
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i havent read the whole thread thru
but @poolscholar
getting filler's revo
WILL NOT MAKE YOU PLAY BETTER
sorry to be the one to break the news
good luck with your game
but @poolscholar
getting filler's revo
WILL NOT MAKE YOU PLAY BETTER
sorry to be the one to break the news
good luck with your game
Tadaimarlon
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Bingo. Many years ago I was at a tournament with one of the best players in Spain: Francisco Díaz-Pizarro. I don't remember the exact reason, but he didn't have his cue with him for some reason. Another player lent him his cue (a cue he had never played with before) and he won the tournament without any problems with this borrowed cue...
Flakeandrun
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It's always humbling to see greats at work!
Like a skateboarder who snaps a board, then borrows whoever's is around. Makes the trick. Seen it countless times. Sure the feel, or some other thing may be unfamiliar, and that's the crux of the point, it's simply lack of familiarity. The true guns get it done.
I do think familiarity is what matters most. We are strange creatures of habit. I used to have my cricket bats made by someone who had made them since I was a child. Stickered them up with my sponsors stickers. I think familiarity matters more to some than others, but it matters nonetheless, and naturally we feel weird playing with something outside of our normal.
So essentially, I think that true talent is affected by the same familiarity that gets to us normal folk, just less so. The second money game I ever played was a foreign Chinese-8 pro. He literally bought a cue from a bar he was drinking at as a breaker, and used a cheap Taobao cue. Liked them, and used them in all the tournaments he played during this particular visit (still had his case stickered up with his sponsor). Also saw the same guy playing with any old house cue (and a skinful of beers) just as well as he played against me.
The only thing that matters is how it feels in your hand, and how it feels in your head, not what some advertisement or anyone else tells you. It's how it feels to you. Specifically. Of course they'd love you to throw all your money at whatever they describe as 'game changing' and of course the pros on their roster will agree with the narrative...