ID my GC please

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I'm not sure if it's a GC 1 2 or 3.
Thanks in advance.
 

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Always a fun game. I would have said it's a II because of the corner castings 'open' design and the name plate, which doesn't have the plastic covered design of the 1s I've had, with pockets and rail bolt washers that aren't original. Perhaps even a III because of the screws that hold the corner skirt brackets. I would not, however, want to bet against Jay haha. Do the legs have screw in levelers? Whichever it is, you certainly have 2 very nice sets of balls. How do you think the Cyclops balls compare to the Centennials?
 
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The ones and two are a lot alike, how's those pockets play? leather facings?


Rob.M
 
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Do the legs have screw in levelers?
- I don't have any idea.
How do you think the Cyclops balls compare to the Centennials?
- To me Centennial balls with Red circle cue ball and Cyclops with RC cue ball play the same, for some reason Cyclop cue ball plays weird. :D[/QUOTE]
 
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how's those pockets play? leather facings?

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not really good, especially the side pockets..:(

Rob.M[/QUOTE]
 
GC I - non-leveling feet, aprons have full length aluminum male extrusions along the top, ball box screws to the frame.

GC II - leveling feet, several shorter extrusions along each apron top, ball box has two short male extrusions along the top that fit into the female rail extrusion and then screws to the frame.

GC I/II - both were issued with plastic skirting shown here missing.
 
GC I - non-leveling feet, aprons have full length aluminum male extrusions along the top, ball box screws to the frame.

GC II - leveling feet, several shorter extrusions along each apron top, ball box has two short male extrusions along the top that fit into the female rail extrusion and then screws to the frame.

GC I/II - both were issued with plastic skirting shown here missing.

I and others have posted many times about this same issue. The early Gold Crown ones had fixed feet and a plastic name plate. Later Gold crown ones had adjustable feet and a metal name plate, but they still Gold crown ones.

The Gold Crown 2 was only manufactured from late 1973-1976 and they had a bronze trim package, feet and castings, came from the factory with a mahogany finish on the wood, white underskirts, and most had hex bolts on the frame assembly.

The table pictured is a Gold Crown 1, later model, that's been stripped of the original white paint and stained.

Jay
 
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I think that it might be a very early gold crown III. Some of the early GC III tables have some of the left over GC II parts which is good. The apron brackets say GC III, but the nameplate and corner castings say GC II
 
I think that it might be a very early gold crown III. Some of the early GC III tables have some of the left over GC II parts which is good. The apron brackets say GC III, but the nameplate and corner castings say GC II
I am 100% sure it is not an early 3. On the picture that shows the underside corner you see the bracket that mounts the apron to the rail and you see the screw that used to attach the plastic skirting.
 

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I and others have posted many times about this same issue. The early Gold Crown ones had fixed feet and a plastic name plate. Later Gold crown ones had adjustable feet and a metal name plate, but they still Gold crown ones.

The Gold Crown 2 was only manufactured from late 1973-1976 and they had a bronze trim package, feet and castings, came from the factory with a mahogany finish on the wood, white underskirts, and most had hex bolts on the frame assembly.

The table pictured is a Gold Crown 1, later model, that's been stripped of the original white paint and stained.

Jay

I have what I thought to be a GCII because of the above. I thought the real difference was the rail hold downs, whether it had the figure 8 plates or the captured nuts (or what ever is under the wood that is not the figure 8 plates), mine does not have the figure 8 plates for rail hold downs or the bronze trim, (I thought those were GCIIIs) My frame has square head bolts in it, the AR6100 tag on the stretcher, and the guy I got it from was the second owner, he thought original owner bought it new in 1971. I also have the cork lined ball box, I know this because the cork is deteriorating and getting pulled out onto the playing field.
 
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I am 100% sure it is not an early 3. On the picture that shows the underside corner you see the bracket that mounts the apron to the rail and you see the screw that used to attach the plastic skirting.

You are right sir.. I missed that one. The brackets that bring the aprons together are not GC III either
 
Looks like a franken-table, Nothing wrong with that, it looks nice but it may have parts from I, II and III's How's it play?
 
Looks like a franken-table, Nothing wrong with that, it looks nice but it may have parts from I, II and III's How's it play?

Yeah, its odd that it is stained but does not have the Bronze trim. But from what everyone says it sounds like the aprons from a GCI or GCII will not fit right on a GCIII and vice versa. Maybe it was originally painted and someone stained it, they would have been thorough though cause the inside of the ball box does not look painted. I know when I stained mine i drew the line at the inside of the ball box, seems like you would need to disassemble it to do a decent job. I sure the OP will find out more when table is disassembled next time. It helps to know the history too, if it came from a pool hall it sounds like odds are good it is a Franken-Table, at least from the tales we hear here. I guess I should consider myself fortunate to have found an early GC that was privately owned and very well cared for its entire life. I probably played more hours on my table in the 2 years I have owned it than the 40 years previous. :dance:
 
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