Ideal case for sneaky pete style cues?

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I'm trying to think of what the ideal case would be for sneaky pete cues. For example, the classic 4-point maple and cocobolo / rosewood cues. I think most cases are too fancy in design (or too modern looking) for the simple classic sneaky pete.

I'm starting from two matching butts (Predator SP4RW, to be exact), one for playing and one break butt, and room for 4 shafts, so a 2x4 size case. I'm not thinking about hustling anyone, so that's not part of choosing a design.

I guess that "basic black" is out, since it doesn't pick up the colors of the butts, or the design.

One thought I had was to have a case maker mimic the 4-point design in brown and (maple-color? what is that called outside of wood) champagne? colored leather or other material. I guess the red "pinstripe" would be difficult, but I don't know.

I've been thinking hard case, but maybe a soft-sided case has some historical roots, and might be a better choice.

To sum up, I could use some good suggestions:grin-square:
 
Contact John Barton...he can do anything you want and will work with you to get it right (and within your budget). I'm thinking a GTF style case in a burgundy or champagne color; you could go nuts (or not) from there. The real leather ones are a little pricey in 2x4, but maybe he can do something in vinyl with plastic endcaps? He also has some really nice envelope style cases that might work, too. I love his J Flowers tributes and variations of that, but that might run you more than the value of your whole set up.

derangedhermit said:
I'm trying to think of what the ideal case would be for sneaky pete cues. For example, the classic 4-point maple and cocobolo / rosewood cues. I think most cases are too fancy in design (or too modern looking) for the simple classic sneaky pete.

I'm starting from two matching butts (Predator SP4RW, to be exact), one for playing and one break butt, and room for 4 shafts, so a 2x4 size case. I'm not thinking about hustling anyone, so that's not part of choosing a design.

I guess that "basic black" is out, since it doesn't pick up the colors of the butts, or the design.

One thought I had was to have a case maker mimic the 4-point design in brown and (maple-color? what is that called outside of wood) champagne? colored leather or other material. I guess the red "pinstripe" would be difficult, but I don't know.

I've been thinking hard case, but maybe a soft-sided case has some historical roots, and might be a better choice.

To sum up, I could use some good suggestions:grin-square:
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Difference between envelope and butterfly?

pwd72s said:
Envelope case?
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I googled "envelope cue case". It is true that an envelope case always has a flap on the end that opens, and a butterfly case always opens from the side? Or is it that a butterfly always has a zipper that goes around three sides?

Do side-opening cases still always need sleeves or tubes to hold the butts and shafts?:confused:

There are plenty of pictures of the outsides of cases on the web, but not enough of the alternative insides that can be done.
 
derangedhermit said:
I'm trying to think of what the ideal case would be for sneaky pete cues. For example, the classic 4-point maple and cocobolo / rosewood cues. I think most cases are too fancy in design (or too modern looking) for the simple classic sneaky pete.

I'm starting from two matching butts (Predator SP4RW, to be exact), one for playing and one break butt, and room for 4 shafts, so a 2x4 size case. I'm not thinking about hustling anyone, so that's not part of choosing a design.

I guess that "basic black" is out, since it doesn't pick up the colors of the butts, or the design.

One thought I had was to have a case maker mimic the 4-point design in brown and (maple-color? what is that called outside of wood) champagne? colored leather or other material. I guess the red "pinstripe" would be difficult, but I don't know.

I've been thinking hard case, but maybe a soft-sided case has some historical roots, and might be a better choice.

To sum up, I could use some good suggestions:grin-square:
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Take your pick:

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See them all here: http://www.jbcases.com/casesbyname.html

Doing tooling to match the veneers is not a problem.

Please email me if intrested - my pm box is full jb@jbideas.com
 
derangedhermit said:
I googled "envelope cue case". It is true that an envelope case always has a flap on the end that opens,
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Generally envelope denotes a top loading case with a flap, similar to a manila envelope.


and a butterfly case always opens from the side? Or is it that a butterfly always has a zipper that goes around three sides?
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I am not sure who coined the term butterfly case, might have been me, but generally it denotes cases which open on three sides and lay flat resembling a butterfly.


Do side-opening cases still always need sleeves or tubes to hold the butts and shafts?:confused:
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No, the cues can be held with elastic loops or fabric loops as well. Unless you want a rigid box case where the cavities can be made of wood dividers or molded foam.

I can make a semi-hard butterfly case that has semi-rigid dividers in it if requested. Thus the cues would lay in like a box case.

I can also do padded clamps that the cue snaps into. All these are things I have developed in the past that haven't made it into a steady offering yet.

There are plenty of pictures of the outsides of cases on the web, but not enough of the alternative insides that can be done.
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Try this website; www.jbcases.com/casesbyname.html - each case shows the inside.

Interiors: http://jbcases.com/sizes.html
 
Sharp or horrible gaudy thing?

Thanks for all the replies so far. I'd like to figure things out further with the good help here, for those that care to add comments.

I like the idea of an envelope case with thick soft leather, maybe a dark brown matching the overall cocobolo color. Add red or red and black stitching or something for a splash of color. That's one way to go.

I also tried a little editing work on another direction, overlaying the butt design and color on the case. Too over-the-top? Is the design too big?
sneakypetecase1.jpg
 
JB Cases said:
Generally envelope denotes a top loading case with a flap, similar to a manila envelope.

I am not sure who coined the term butterfly case, might have been me, but generally it denotes cases which open on three sides and lay flat resembling a butterfly.

No, the cues can be held with elastic loops or fabric loops as well. Unless you want a rigid box case where the cavities can be made of wood dividers or molded foam.

I can make a semi-hard butterfly case that has semi-rigid dividers in it if requested. Thus the cues would lay in like a box case.

I can also do padded clamps that the cue snaps into. All these are things I have developed in the past that haven't made it into a steady offering yet.
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Thank you very much for the info. For this case, I'd like it to be lightweight. That means to me that maybe fabric sleeves or elastic loops would be the way to go, instead of the tubes or foam. I think either of those would feel more "old school" than clamps. I do have a need for a second case in mind where clamps might be the answer, but that's for another thread.
 
derangedhermit said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I'd like to figure things out further with the good help here, for those that care to add comments.

I like the idea of an envelope case with thick soft leather, maybe a dark brown matching the overall cocobolo color. Add red or red and black stitching or something for a splash of color. That's one way to go.

I also tried a little editing work on another direction, overlaying the butt design and color on the case. Too over-the-top? Is the design too big?
sneakypetecase1.jpg
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I will let others comment on the design except to say it works for me and we can easily do it. Since we have a laser engraver we can do very accurate lines which we then hand tool and hand color.
 
derangedhermit said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I'd like to figure things out further with the good help here, for those that care to add comments.

I like the idea of an envelope case with thick soft leather, maybe a dark brown matching the overall cocobolo color. Add red or red and black stitching or something for a splash of color. That's one way to go.

I also tried a little editing work on another direction, overlaying the butt design and color on the case. Too over-the-top? Is the design too big?
sneakypetecase1.jpg
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that is a really cool design....gl in your search...
 
derangedhermit said:
Thank you very much for the info. For this case, I'd like it to be lightweight. That means to me that maybe fabric sleeves or elastic loops would be the way to go, instead of the tubes or foam. I think either of those would feel more "old school" than clamps. I do have a need for a second case in mind where clamps might be the answer, but that's for another thread.
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The model you drew on is very lightweight. You can ask Jive Ong on here how he likes his. You can read more about it here www.jbcases.com/chas.html
 
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