Ideas for a jump/break cue

If you have room in the case, dedicated jump and break cues are better I think. I love my Gilbert but it's not great for short, tight jumps. I had planned to get rid of my Jacoby jump cue but ended up keeping it because it really is better for those kind of jumps. Not sure how much better a dedicated break cue can be, I love breaking with my Gilbert. But I havent tried the offerings from OB, Predator, or Mezz.
 
Plagueis said:
Yeah im quite disappointed that it's beyond my price range. I may end up going for the high tower JB unless some can make a case of getting separate dedicated jump and breaks cues.
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Well he is backed up for three months gives you time to get the rest of the $$ together
 
slide13 said:
If you have room in the case, dedicated jump and break cues are better I think. I love my Gilbert but it's not great for short, tight jumps. I had planned to get rid of my Jacoby jump cue but ended up keeping it because it really is better for those kind of jumps. Not sure how much better a dedicated break cue can be, I love breaking with my Gilbert. But I havent tried the offerings from OB, Predator, or Mezz.
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Change the tip on that gilbert to his new tip designed by him. SEan from Cueaddicts can get you one.
 
My idea is that you keep the jumper and the breaker as two separate cues.
Pechauer is right in their ads. Those two acts are dramatically different.
 
And so, if separate dedicated jump and break cues are suggested then what sort of jump cue should I look into?
 
I like my Jacoby a lot and it is easy to jump with. I'm sure the OB and Predator ones are nice too, but I haven't tried them.
 
Plagueis said:
And so, if separate dedicated jump and break cues are suggested then what sort of jump cue should I look into?
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I like the Pechauser jumpers.
The best of the straight jumpers I've tried.
I'm not a good jumper by a long shot but the Pech made it look easy. I don't know what they do with their cues but with all the other ones I've tried I looked like I normally look when I try to jump a ball....like a penguin trying to fly. Just ridiculous.
 
Plagueis said:
And so, if separate dedicated jump and break cues are suggested then what sort of jump cue should I look into?
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Pechauer...Their jump cue handle allows both types of grip, their break cue works well.

That said, if I were appointed supreme ruler, I'd outlaw jump cues. I love to watch someone who kicks well and prefers to kick over jumping.
 
slide13 said:
If you have room in the case, dedicated jump and break cues are better I think. I love my Gilbert but it's not great for short, tight jumps. I had planned to get rid of my Jacoby jump cue but ended up keeping it because it really is better for those kind of jumps. Not sure how much better a dedicated break cue can be, I love breaking with my Gilbert. But I havent tried the offerings from OB, Predator, or Mezz.
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PM me if you're interested, slide. $20 shipped to you. These tips are killer! They are very hard and make the closer, tighter jump shots way easier...and they do it all without giving up the grip and feel of leather.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=388944
 

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Sell everything pool-related that you have.Buy an Andy Gilbert Jump/Break and a spare shaft,a GTF 1x2 case,a Brad scuffer for your key ring and you're set.If you really wanna be an uptown kind of feller get you a 2-pack of Blue Diamond chalk & tote a piece in your pocket !!!
 
The Renfro said:
If it has to be a jump/break might as well go cheap... In testing I have yet to find one that jumps as well as a dedicated jumper regardless of what you have read... Most break fine not Mezz, Predator or OB good... but fine and will stroke jump as long as you have distance or are jumping half balls but forgot about dart jumping or jumping much with finesse... The technology that makes a good break cue doesn't really make for a good jump cue... They are 2 different animals....
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100% correct. I'm surprised this isn't common knowledge by this point.

KMRUNOUT
 
Plagueis said:
I really appreciate that there's someone with this opinion out there as I've heard similar things as well.
So why are jump cues so different from jump/breaks? couldn't I just get a dart handle for my break shaft or my jump/break shaft to get that finesse you're speaking of?
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One of the big issues is low deflection. The better break cues out there like OB and Predator have low deflection shafts. Nowhere more than a break cue is this a benefit. This is because off center hits which are so common on a break shot will not go as far off course and will hit the one ball more squarely. On the other hand, for a jump cue, you want maximum deflection. You are trying to squirt the cueball out of the way as much as possible. This is why amazing jump cues like Jacoby have very heavy front ends...brass ferrule, G10 tip, etc. The point is both for balance and the feel of jumping, and also to go through the cueball better so it moves up and out of the way, rather than the shaft moving out of the way.

My experience is also that the one piece all phenolic ferrule and tip simply doesn't work as well for jumping as a tip and ferrule combo. I don't know why this is, but it seems pretty consistent across the board.

In my opinion, the BK3 and OB break cues are as good as it gets. The Jacoby jump cue is about as good as it gets in that department. However I just tried one of Steve Lomax's most recent designs in jump cue, and WOW. Very very nice. On par with the Jacoby in jumping, and seemed like better workmanship. I think the Jacoby still has a slight edge in close up jumps and dart method style jumps.

Hope this helps,

KMRUNOUT
 
Also, as someone who jumps very well, and has tried many many jump cues, I feel obligated to point out that the Jacoby is in a totally different league than the Pechaur for jump cues. No comparison. (I'm saying the Jacoby is radically better).

KMRUNOUT
 
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