Identify Brunswick and questions

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flurec

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I have a Brunswick table that I acquired free from my wife's work. I will attach pictures. It is in rough shape. I have searched as much as I can but cannot find out any information on this table. It is 9 foot with 3 pieces of slate.

It seems to me that it had, at one point, some type of veneer on the inside structure. There is some random writing (the most "official" looking is M199662) is stamped in a couple of places. There are rectangle shaped (1/2' on short side) nuts to attached the legs to the frame. It looks like it has been taken apart numerous times.

Questions
1. What model is it?
2. Legs appear to be able to be adjustable, There is a long bolt that goes all of the way from the bottom to the top of the leg where it attaches to the frame. How are they adjusted? The nuts on top were not attached tightly to the frame when I took it apart. The nuts come off and the bolt can move up and down.
3. There is a cross brace (correct term?) crossing the short side of the frame that has a square headed bolt going into it on both sides. This brace is not attached to the sides and I can move it up and down. What is the proper way to attach it to the sides? The bolts turned a little but are now tight.
4. The wood under the slate is not attached but it looks like I can get some MDF or poplar and clamp it on with adhesive.
5. Good source for affordable replacement pockets? They look to be number 3 and the leather is unusable.

Upload made me make the files smaller- here is a link of higher quality.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBCE4rjsywY87HrB6

Thanks for any info!
 

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Looks to be maybe a Wellington from around 1906, or a close relative. It appears this one has been been restored at some point and the veneer has been replaced and some original trim removed.

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Can't really understand your questions. Photos look like you have a nice table.
 
Lawnboy77 said:
Looks to be maybe a Wellington from around 1906, or a close relative. It appears this one has been been restored at some point and the veneer has been replaced and some original trim removed.

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I had a Wellington pool table, and as was mentioned, it looks like it except missing some trim pieces.
 
Legs aren't adjustable.

Just glue a frame to underside of the slate to staple to.

You shim under the wood backer on slate with playing cards and then bolt slate down. You will need quafiekd help to get the table level and put cloth on. VERY tough to get an old table level abd if you don't know...don't even try.
 
SBC said:
Legs aren't adjustable.

Just glue a frame to underside of the slate to staple to.

You shim under the wood backer on slate with playing cards and then bolt slate down. You will need quafiekd help to get the table level and put cloth on. VERY tough to get an old table level abd if you don't know...don't even try.
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How about just glueing cloth to the sides of the slate.
 
jtompilot said:
How about just glueing cloth to the sides of the slate.
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Need the backing for bed height anyways.
Adds an inch.
I've glued furrubg strips like 1x3 or 1x4 to the edge with construction adhesive....contact cement would work too. Just clamp in place or set slate on it.
 
See pics above /\ /\ /\

I really appreciate all of the replies. Thank you for the suggestions and information. Maybe this follow up should be in a different sub forum.

I am still trying to figure out the best way to attach the cross brace (center slate support beam) and I am going to attach some pics. Basically, it is the support that crosses the table at the side pockets (it would be under the slate going from one side to the other under the side pockets).

It is not attached at all and is only in place because the side boards are tapered in so it is just resting on them. I can freely move it up and down. I am assuming I should clamp with wood glue and use some long screws but I am puzzled by the way it is (when I picked it up this was loose). There is a square headed bolt that I am not sure why it is there. With it loose pressure down would push the sides out.

Thoughts?
 
Wish I could see this in person.
That bolt is to secure the cross member support assembly. Nothing else I can think of. Curious why anyone would remove that bolt during disassembly? Very strange!

Seems that's what happened and just speculation from here on out.... the bolt was lost and purchased as an aftermarket part? or The Wrong (length) bolt was used somewhere else in error during assembly. There's several of these bolts all over your table frame. Same size and pitch but different lengths. Some areas accept a short bolt and will seem all is good, even if they should have received a longer bolt.

Possible issues beyond the above.

#1 The bolt is not original and is too long. I've seen this a couple times on these tables. Parts get lost so replica's are purchased....
The Replica's are perfect regarding size and pitch but they're made long enough for every table and every purpose between 1850 and 1945.
Maybe too long and needs to be cut shorter.

#2 Is a long shot. Do all the numbers on the corners and cross members match?
 
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Except for the words "Not Attached" (refers to the gap in the pic) and "Bolts" these are the numbers and letters I see. I can look down through the gap and that bolt is definitely not coming through. Mystery?
 
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