identify this case??

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take a look at this case and identify. i've hade this case since around 1989-90 i think. thx
 

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From the time frame you say it was built I would say it is a Jay Flowers if it came from Florida or a Dennis Sturdevant if it came from Atlanta. Jay used the 9 ball rack alot and that is the time he was still active. Sturdevant was also making cases just about like the Flowers at the same time. But the pocket work looks to me more like Jay's work. Others mentioned Swift but I did not know of anyone except Flowers and Sturdevant building that type of case in the late 80's.
 
cueman said:
From the time frame you say it was built I would say it is a Jay Flowers if it came from Florida or a Dennis Sturdevant if it came from Atlanta. Jay used the 9 ball rack alot and that is the time he was still active. Sturdevant was also making cases just about like the Flowers at the same time. But the pocket work looks to me more like Jay's work. Others mentioned Swift but I did not know of anyone except Flowers and Sturdevant building that type of case in the late 80's.
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i can't be positive either because of the time frame as you say. i bought the case from a local player who purchased a few of them from the maker. the tooling stamps used by case makers at that time were pretty common so it really could be anyone of these makers. i thought it was a swift only because the tube configuration, the red felt and the stamp configuration above the tip tap pocket.
 
I also agree with it being a Swift. Flapped tapper pocket, number of feet, general tube configuration, etc. aren't like Jay's cases.
 
skins said:
take a look at this case and identify. i've hade this case since around 1989-90 i think. thx
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I agree that it looks like a Swift.

I did some hunting around for hand tooled leather cases a few years back, and found that JJcue.com sells Swift cases under "Tad cue cases." Then there is Billiards Warehouse in Texas that sells the Widowmaker line of cases. These appear to be the same as the cases sold by Bert Kinister(same picture and same name -> Widowmaker). The Kinister cases and Swift cases look so similar, that I thought they were made by the same people (but I could never verify or deny it), or at least copied to look that way...

These cases have a distinct look when compared to Flowers cases, or even older Justis cases.

I contacted Bert Kiniseter in 2002/2003 regarding getting a case built, but ended up with a Justis and haven't regretted it since.

Hope this helps.

-td
 
td873 said:
I agree that it looks like a Swift.

I did some hunting around for hand tooled leather cases a few years back, and found that JJcue.com sells Swift cases under "Tad cue cases." Then there is Billiards Warehouse in Texas that sells the Widowmaker line of cases. These appear to be the same as the cases sold by Bert Kinister(same picture and same name -> Widowmaker). The Kinister cases and Swift cases look so similar, that I thought they were made by the same people (but I could never verify or deny it), or at least copied to look that way...
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the key here is the clasp and tapper pocket. mine match the widowmaker. so it's possible the mystery may be sloved. the closest match is a widowmaker.
 
skins said:
the key here is the clasp and tapper pocket. mine match the widowmaker. so it's possible the mystery may be sloved. the closest match is a widowmaker.
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Dennis Swift with a doubt.


Jack
 
Jack Justis said:
By the way, Dennis makes the Widowmaker, Kinister and Tad. They just gave them a different name.
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Jack,

Last I heard the Widowmaker connection was ending - this being fairly recent news.

Chris
 
cueman said:
When did swift start making these cases?
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I have one of his very early examples. He had a block printed 'SWIFT' on the bottom. The Tad cases were a while back too. I would estimate he started making cases in about 1991, about the same time Jack did. Flowers started winding down about then.

Chris

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