if only we had technology in billiard balls!

TimurA

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Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lenghts,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls.

Wouldn't be wonderful if we had cue balls(both white and yellow ball) which would tell us :

-where they were hit(exact point of hit:10 0'clock or 10.30 ,therefore the exact detail about lateral and vertical english)
-speed of the cue ball

and all three having the capacity showing :

-How much thick the first object ball was hit.

To see these data on the screen would be entertaining and educative and also the existence of these data would create 'information' if the computer has those data and process it and creating such as :how fast a player is:I mean we say ' This player is soft or that player is explosive' but if we can measure the speed of each shot and average it ,we would have such information:This player has let's say 15 mile shot speed average in this particular game or per year or certain positions.Or during a match what is the thickness average of a player? if the ball tell us the data in every shot,we would have the information :we could see for example on screen:let's say Saygıner played 0,40 thickness average during a game but the opponent played 0,35.Those thickness figures my create new discussions.Or how players prefered spins.Some players prefer maximum english other players may use a bit more intermadiate spins.İf balls may give us data about this ,we may have again avarege numerical knowledge abut spins and comment about it.

Even more benefits of technology are possible.The amount of curves by the cueball may be measured and shown and the computer may suggest in any position the speed-thickness-spin combination that would make the point and when a player misses,the computer may say the reason of missing.

İn any way,if more numeraical data and statistics are avalaible more inteligent comments may be made apart from more entertainement produced.

When the colour tv came out in late 60's in England ,snooker benefited a lot from it becouse snooker had coloured balls! maybe be intelligent billiard balls may be the driving force behind a future resurgence in 3C.Robert Bryne said in his pool/billiard book that 3C requires the art of selection of lateral/vertical spin ,speed,thickness and stroke in a shot.This selection in every shot makes 3C different than pocket billiards so intelligent balls may make us see those preferences by a player in a numerical and even in statistical way

Personally,I do not know how it will be done but nano-technology has progressed immensely.I believe this can be done today or very near future.May be a very thin gelatin like computer on billiard balls would do the job.Maybe it will not be seen by naked eye or the mini computer will look like dot on the ball.

I apologize for this very long message.I hope it will not put much strain on readers.

Regards,

Timur
İstanbul,Turkey
 
TimurA said:
Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lenghts,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls.

Wouldn't be wonderful if we had cue balls(both white and yellow ball) which would tell us :

-where they were hit(exact point of hit:10 0'clock or 10.30 ,therefore the exact detail about lateral and vertical english)
-speed of the cue ball

and all three having the capacity showing :

-How much thick the first object ball was hit.

...
With the spotted balls, and slightly faster cameras, and a little software, all of this is available now. The rotation of the spots indicates where the cue ball was struck. The direction of the object ball indicates how much of it was struck. The problem for the current set of TV cameras is that they are not fast enough to catch the motion of the spots. That could be fixed by one overhead high-speed camera to catch the first few dozen milliseconds of cue ball travel.
 
I think Bob has pretty much said it all in that one post, at least for me anyways :)

There are already video clips on youtube using high speed camera's, showing the effects of english and banks, etc, and so, I would like to think that if can be used for billiards physics demonstration, then the same purpose can be applied for matches being played in a televised match situation, but at the same time, I wouldn't imagine too many TV networking companies investing the bankroll for a high speed camera for the purpose of just filming billiard/pool matches with it :)

Willie
 
TheWizard said:
I ... I wouldn't imagine too many TV networking companies investing the bankroll for a high speed camera for the purpose of just filming billiard/pool matches with it :)

Willie
If you consider the "eagle eye" feature of the BBC snooker broadcasts, you might be more optimistic. I think the real problem for the "hit tracker" would be the software.

Perhaps the best example of "real-time video features" is the addition of yard markers to views of the American football field. Two colored lines are drawn across the grass field indicating how far the ball must advance. The lines appear to be drawn on the grass, since if a player gets in front of a line, the line disappears in the appropriate places. This requires a lot of coordination between the location and rotation of each camera and the physical location of the real lines on the field. (In American football, the exact distance the ball is advanced on each play is important.)
 
Hmm...good point.

I would think that if you can have Bowling balls with all the cool technology, we can also do it with billiard(carom) balls.

There should be some gyroscope/balancer within the center balls so when you hit it, the english can amplify. It's a theory.

Or have cream filled edible ones. Hehe.
=)
 
TimurA said:
Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lengths,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls.

Wouldn't be wonderful if we had cue balls(both white and yellow ball) which would tell us :

-where they were hit(exact point of hit:10 0'clock or 10.30 ,therefore the exact detail about lateral and vertical english)
-speed of the cue ball

and all three having the capacity showing :

-How much thick the first object ball was hit.

To see these data on the screen would be entertaining and educative and also the existence of these data would create 'information' if the computer has those data and process it and creating such as :how fast a player is:I mean we say ' This player is soft or that player is explosive' but if we can measure the speed of each shot and average it ,we would have such information:This player has let's say 15 mile shot speed average in this particular game or per year or certain positions.Or during a match what is the thickness average of a player? if the ball tell us the data in every shot,we would have the information :we could see for example on screen:let's say Saygıner played 0,40 thickness average during a game but the opponent played 0,35.Those thickness figures my create new discussions.Or how players prefered spins.Some players prefer maximum english other players may use a bit more intermadiate spins.İf balls may give us data about this ,we may have again avarege numerical knowledge abut spins and comment about it.

Even more benefits of technology are possible.The amount of curves by the cueball may be measured and shown and the computer may suggest in any position the speed-thickness-spin combination that would make the point and when a player misses,the computer may say the reason of missing.

İn any way,if more numeraical data and statistics are avalaible more inteligent comments may be made apart from more entertainement produced.

When the colour tv came out in late 60's in England ,snooker benefited a lot from it becouse snooker had coloured balls! maybe be intelligent billiard balls may be the driving force behind a future resurgence in 3C.Robert Bryne said in his pool/billiard book that 3C requires the art of selection of lateral/vertical spin ,speed,thickness and stroke in a shot.This selection in every shot makes 3C different than pocket billiards so intelligent balls may make us see those preferences by a player in a numerical and even in statistical way

Personally,I do not know how it will be done but nano-technology has progressed immensely.I believe this can be done today or very near future.May be a very thin gelatin like computer on billiard balls would do the job.Maybe it will not be seen by naked eye or the mini computer will look like dot on the ball.

I apologize for this very long message.I hope it will not put much strain on readers. FIRST CUT THE BALL IN HALF, EASY NOW TO POCKET THE BALL

HAL HOULE

Regards,

Timur
İstanbul,Turkey
 
TimurA Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lengths,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls.



SEE THE BALL CUT IN HALF NOW

POCKET THE BALL.



Regards, HAL HOULE

Timur
İstanbul,Turkey
 
Hal

halhoule said:
TimurA Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lengths,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls.



SEE THE BALL CUT IN HALF NOW

POCKET THE BALL.



Regards, HAL HOULE

Timur
İstanbul,Turkey
 
Three Cushion

halhoule said:
halhoule]TimurA Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lengths,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls. WELL NOW YOU CAN
HAVE BETTER CONTROL. THE HALF BALL WILL DO THE TRICK. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PLAY THE HALF BALL. POCKET IT.

Timur
İstanbul,Turkey

HAL HOULE
 
Three Cushion

halhoule said:
halhoule said:
halhoule]TimurA Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lengths,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls. WELL NOW YOU CAN
HAVE BETTER CONTROL. THE HALF BALL WILL DO THE TRICK. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PLAY THE HALF BALL. POCKET IT.

Timur
İstanbul,Turkey

HAL HOULE
 
kingwang said:
^^What the hell is this guy's problem?

He is very old and likely not familiar with internet/ forum etiquette.

Many folks-good players- have given him praise for his knowledge and benefitted from his sharing of it.

Thae delivery needs a bit of a tune-up thouh, I agree!
 
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