I'm Thinking About Buying This SCHON...

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BILLtheDJguy

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Can anyone tell me what it is and what it might be worth? Although I have been playing the game for over 30 years, I must admit I have never owned or shot with one of these. :o

I found this one through a friend (and NO, I'm not telling where it is ) and I think the asking price is fair, based on what I have found online.
Can anyone help to identify what model, possible year made, and value range (low-avg-high) this cue should be?

The elderly owner says he believes he bought it back in '92 or '93 and can't recall where he got it. It was stored in an older Porper case. I have not been able to weigh or measure it, but it appears as the owner claims, to be unplayed. I could not find a single flaw or blemish on the butt and the shaft has only the slightest little mark on it just above the collar (shown in pic). Straight as an arrow, together and apart.

What do I have here, guys or gals? Should I get it?
 

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Is that top shaft not part of the cue you are asking about? Because one look at the ferrule and it is apparent it is has seen play (that shaft anyway).
 
NO. It belongs to the used McDermott he also has for sale. The Schon only has the one shaft pictured with the butt.
 
Thanks. I saw that one in my search. From what I've read, though, I thought that 1993 shafts had the number 13 stamped into the collar after the name? This one just says Schon.
Also, in my search, I kept reading things about "points" and CNC cuts, and then I got into the whole Runde Era stuff, and it it became quite impossible.
That's when I decided to bring it to the experts here on AZ...:thumbup:

Any idea of value if it is a later R12? I have also been told it may be a SL7, but the layout of those appears to be slightly different.

I suppose someone will come along here shortly, and put my concerns to rest. As stated, it's a good deal if it is an R12, but if it is the SL7 model, then it's only an OK deal...
 
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1993 sounds right with that shaft and rounded points. Model SL7, I sold same model on Ebay about 8 monthe ago. Cue went somewhere between 425-450. Dont remember exact amount. Schons hit good, your condition factor is right, if you like the price, buy it. Get bored with it one day, you can always get your money back out of it.
 
OK, guys....I bought it this morning. The gentleman lowered his price to the point that it really didn't matter what it is, it's worth it...

I'm gonna go hit with it this afternoon. What should I look for besides the usual?

MAY BE "FOR SALE", SHORTLY! If it hits too different than what I'm used to, and I can't get the hang of it...

I did that once with the Predator 314 shaft when they first came out. Played with it for 6 hours. STILL couldn't figure it out. Sold it to a guy that I was playing with for $100...
 
The shaft is from 93, but the butt is not. 93 had a different 5/16x14 pin. Pre-93 has a greater minor diameter where post 93 has a smaller minor diameter. 93 has a long nose on the pin.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
When you establish value make a low but not crazy offer, and work from there.
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Yeah, I already picked it up as I stated yesterday morning...

Now, what to do with it?

I'm afraid that if I shoot with it, I may un-do 30 plus years of Meucci loyalty. But, my main thought prior to purchase was to re-sell...

WHAT SHOULD I DO???:confused::sorry::o:p
 
Schon Cue ID

I am not a Schon expert, however, I believe that this is an R12 from the early 90s. Take a look at the following site:http://www.palmercollector.com/Schon/SchonRandSPad1990.html
I think your R12 looks like the one there.

The reply from PDX mentioned that the shaft is from 1993 but the butt is not. I am not certain about that. I believe the shaft is from 1993 as PDX states as this, to my knowledge, is the only year that Schon put their name on the shaft collar. By the way, the 13 you mentioned is simply the diameter of the shaft. I have one with the 13 and I have one like yours with just "Schon" without a number. Each is around 13 mm. I have also seen this year shaft with 12, 12.5, and, I believe, 12.75. I also agree with PDX that Schon used a different pin that year and only that year. Again, to the best of my knowledge. I don't know, however, that they used that pin exclusively that year. I recently acquired an SL-3 and an SL-6 with the 1993 shafts I mention. The SL-3 has the different pin, the SL-6 has a "normal" pin. I believe that each is a 1993 cue simply because they were "old new stock" according to the auction site that I purchased them from and the shafts I mention came with them. Each was "new" in the sense that they had not previously been played with.

In any event, nice cue. Congratulations. I would play with it.
 
Thanks, George...I was inclined, based on my research, to assume this was a later R12, as well.

I'm really confused, now.

Perhaps, I will hear back from the guys at SCHON, whom I emailed, and we can finally put it to rest.

Meanwhile, still looking for opinions based on evidence...

What say you?
 
If you can thread an stitch ring schon shaft on it, it's pre-93. Look down the pin at the wood in the joint. Does the grain run with the forearm or against it? Odds are its a pre-93, but post 87. For reference, you can put new schon shafts on old cues, but not old shafts on new cues. You might have two wait a couple of weeks to hear back from Evan. If you have calipers, measure the pin thickness.

My Runde era sharp point in has a 5/16x14 with a major diameter of .306".
My Runde has a 5/16x14 with a major diameter of .308".

I'm pretty sure new Schons are .308" also.
 
I have had plenty of schons
the one you have is a really nice model regardless of what number it is

i personally think it doesn;t matter what number or what series they are

if you get it foe $500 you should be happy
if you pay $1000 ,its not much for a cue you like
 
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