"inner" Edge?

[oldmanatc]

English I'll make an attempt at answering your question. No that is not the inside edge we are talking about in CTE. You're image above would however maybe be an aid to find points 'A' and 'C'. Mohrt described a method on his blog however, that I find more accurate.

The inner edge is the left or right horizon of CB depending on which direction you are cutting the OB.

Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

 

[BeiberLvr]

English I'll make an attempt at answering your question. No that is not the inside edge we are talking about in CTE. You're image above would however maybe be an aid to find points 'A' and 'C'. Mohrt described a method on his blog however, that I find more accurate.

The inner edge is the left or right horizon of CB depending on which direction you are cutting the OB.

Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

Holy shit, son. What are you? Some sort of god damn genius? Boy, you must have went to Harvard and graduated with honors. I bet your mother is proud of you, son.

Or...maybe you just have common sense. Unlike some[one] here.

 

[Pidge]

Holy shit, son. What are you? Some sort of god damn genius? Boy, you must have went to Harvard and graduated with honors. I bet your mother is proud of you, son.

Or...maybe you just have common sense. Unlike some[one] here.

Or maybe he isn't an old man with nothing better to do with his time?

 

[Sloppy Pockets]

Your question is akin to claiming to be an expert driver and mechanic, being given a set of keys, and you asking "where do these go?" .

I was going to make a suggestion as to where he could put those keys, but I changed my mind.

Peace, love, and God bless you, everyone.

 

[mohrt]

no, inside edge is not the quarters on the OB. But it could be a or c depending on the cut.

 

[Sloppy Pockets]

Yes, I did not get the Pro1 DVD after my intrigue & 'hope' was killed by the 3 & 5 ball You Tube Videos on 'perception'.

Yup, sort of like not liking the trailer of a movie and then losing interest. Except that a lot of great movies don't have trailers that are indicative of the true nature of the movie. So, if you want to enter into an intelligent discussion with others about the movie, it's best to argue from the standpoint of one who has actually watched the movie as opposed to someone who has only seen the trailer.

My suggestion? Buy the DVD, watch it several times, take the ideas to an actual pool table, then when you have had your fill, offer it for sale at a reduced price. Or pay it forward and give it away to another aspiring CTE devotee. Either way, at least you'll be able to discuss the method intelligently thereafter.

 

[ENGLISH!]

English I'll make an attempt at answering your question. No that is not the inside edge we are talking about in CTE. You're image above would however maybe be an aid to find points 'A' and 'C'. Mohrt described a method on his blog however, that I find more accurate.

The inner edge is the left or right horizon of CB depending on which direction you are cutting the OB.

Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

Thanks ATC.

I knew what inside & outside was for cutting a pool ball immediately when I was introduced to the game 50 year ago & probably before as it related to angles.

THAT is NOT to what I am referring in my question.

The phrase has been used in context with the CTE line as in the following:

'Inner most edge" & "Outer most edge"

Perhaps it was just misspeaking, as instead of saying Inside Edge & Outside Edge.

The words Inner & Outer generally have a different connotation more like the one in my 'example'

Perhaps the whole hub bub is 'faulty' use of language & words that cause misunderstandings that 'never' get resolved. Who Knows?

When I saw Cornerman's explanation of Hal's method as in my OP the thought occurred to me that perhaps this was/is a part of the contention that was not properly understood & might be a bit of a resolution regarding the 5 shots thing & getting so many different outcome angles from the same objectively visual indicator.

I guess it's not.

So I guess the answer regarding those that use "IT" is still 'perception' & they will not admit that perception is subjective.

The question has been asked many times as to what is there that is objective that would make those DIFFERENT perceptions objective but that question has basically only been answered by repeating that of which the question is about.

They say 'perception' & then call that an answer.

Thanks again for the attempt at helping.

Best Wishes 2 Ya,
Rick

 

[SpiderWebComm]

How do you perceive CJ's TOI as well as his detailed system of aiming by using edges of the OB and CB and lines or portions on the balls? Objective or subjective? If subjective, why?

He was a deadly player and shooter in his prime. What was he doing subjectively that he didn't tell people about in his DVDs and what do you think they were?

 

[ENGLISH!]

I guess it needs repeating & perhaps there will forever be such a need for some.

The subject matter is NOT one that requires ANY physical experience, even though I & others HAVE had physical experience in the implementation of the method.

The question is one that can ONLY be resolved by a cognitive analysis & subsequent explanation.

It is a matter of the mind.

Apparently some lack the ability to absorb & understand that of which they read or... they intentionally disregard what they read or they did not read such at all & then...

they make trolling posts because they do not like another.

They seem to fail to consider how they make themselves appear.

Perhaps if they would step back & look & consider the BIG picture as it would seen by outsiders, perhaps then they might not make the posts that they make...especially after a request has been for such NOT to be posted.

That even makes the trolling posts appear to be blatantly on purpose & just for the purposes of trolling.

Best Wishes to ALL.

PS mock·ing
ˈmäkiNG/Submit
adjective
making fun of someone or something in a cruel way; derisive.
"the mocking hostility in his voice made her wince"

 

[SpiderWebComm]

How do you perceive CJ's TOI as well as his detailed system of aiming by using edges of the OB and CB and lines or portions on the balls? Objective or subjective? If subjective, why?

He was a deadly player and shooter in his prime. What was he doing subjectively that he didn't tell people about in his DVDs and what do you think they were?

What's with all the double talk and avoidance, ENGLISH? I asked you a simple question. WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

IT IS ON TOPIC.

 

[ENGLISH!]

How do you perceive CJ's TOI as well as his detailed system of aiming by using edges of the OB and CB and lines or portions on the balls? Objective or subjective? If subjective, why?

He was a deadly player and shooter in his prime. What was he doing subjectively that he didn't tell people about in his DVDs and what do you think they were?

Firstly,

Do you REALLY expect me to even attempt to carry on a conversation or discussion with YOU?

I'll just stop there per the request of management.

I will add though, that if you think ANY aiming method utilized for the entire compliment of shots in the game is objective, then you are grossly mistaken.

 

[ENGLISH!]

What's with all the double talk and avoidance, ENGLISH? I asked you a simple question. WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

IT IS ON TOPIC.

Check YOUR record.

In other words, take a look at yourself.

I'm inhibited in my response to YOU by the request of management.

 

[ENGLISH!]

The method in CJ Wiley's video as I remember it is NOT an objective aiming method. Actually it does not matter whether or not I remember it correctly or not because...

All one should need to do is to read the first post of my other thread to realize that there can not be for any practical use purposes be any such thing as 'an objective aiming system' or method.

Best Wishes to All.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Firstly,

Do you REALLY expect me to even attempt to carry on a conversation or discussion with YOU?

I'll just stop there per the request of management.

I didn't get the memo or notification from them. But I can definitely go along with it since I really have NO DESIRE to communicate with you again or you to me!!!

Let's KEEP IT THAT WAY!! (no need to write a NOVEL or 2-3 more posts confirming)

 

[oldmanatc]

English, I have conceded before, and I'll do it again. By the definition of the word 'Objective' I agree there is no such aiming system. I will however call it an accurate and repeatable system for aiming, straight in shots; cut shots and bank shots.

You seem to take personal umbrage with the use of the term Objective as Stan uses to advertise his system. He certainly isn't the first to use this type of language to market a product. I can't think of any product I have ever seen advertised as "This seems to work pretty well, give me $20 and I'll give it to you." I personally don't take issue with it, but then again I'm not prone to pull out my credit card from watching late-night infomercials. Personal unsolicited reviews and testimony are what I personally strive to utilize to make informative decisions, unless I already know a certain product can actually provide me some specific use. I doubt I'm the only pool player who shops this way.

 

[ENGLISH!]

I didn't get the memo or notification from them. But I can definitely go along with it since I really have NO DESIRE to communicate with you again or you to me!!!

Let's KEEP IT THAT WAY!! (no need to write a NOVEL or 2-3 more posts confirming)

You have no desire to communicate with me yet you attempt to initiate one by asking me questions.

That should be a clear indicator of your use of 'logic'.

 

[Neil]

...................

Apparently some lack the ability to absorb & understand that of which they read or... they intentionally disregard what they read or they did not read such at all & then...

they make trolling posts because they do not like another.

They seem to fail to consider how they make themselves appear.

Perhaps if they would step back & look & consider the BIG picture as it would seen by outsiders, perhaps then they might not make the posts that they make...especially after a request has been for such NOT to be posted.

That even makes the trolling posts appear to be blatantly on purpose & just for the purposes of trolling.

Best Wishes to ALL.

PS mock·ing
ˈmäkiNG/Submit
adjective
making fun of someone or something in a cruel way; derisive.
"the mocking hostility in his voice made her wince"

Preview of your autobiography?? Have to say, sounds pretty accurate.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

"Let's KEEP IT THAT WAY!! (no need to write a NOVEL or 2-3 more posts confirming)"


Good God Almighty! He just HAD TO DO IT!! (this is to the rest of the forum)

 

[Neil]

English I'll make an attempt at answering your question. No that is not the inside edge we are talking about in CTE. You're image above would however maybe be an aid to find points 'A' and 'C'. Mohrt described a method on his blog however, that I find more accurate.

The inner edge is the left or right horizon of CB depending on which direction you are cutting the OB.

Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

There is no way he is so ignorant that he doesn't already know that. (then again, I have been know to be wrong once in a while) Which leaves just one thing- this is nothing more than another thread of his to troll CTE and it's users. He is so obsessed with getting people to agree to his versions of the system, that he is willing to stoop as low as need be to accomplish that goal. And those that disagree with him become "persona non grata", are to be dismissed as irrelevant.

 

[ENGLISH!]

English, I have conceded before, and I'll do it again. By the definition of the word 'Objective' I agree there is no such aiming system. I will however call it an accurate and repeatable system for aiming, straight in shots; cut shots and bank shots.

You seem to take personal umbrage with the use of the term Objective as Stan uses to advertise his system. He certainly isn't the first to use this type of language to market a product. I can't think of any product I have ever seen advertised as "This seems to work pretty well, give me $20 and I'll give it to you." I personally don't take issue with it, but then again I'm not prone to pull out my credit card from watching late-night infomercials. Personal unsolicited reviews and testimony are what I personally strive to utilize to make informative decisions, unless I already know a certain product can actually provide me some specific use. I doubt I'm the only pool player who shops this way.

I am glad you realize that & have the GUTS to make that statement since you are a user of the system. Now if others would follow suit.

You make some seemingly good points, but...

can you show me ANY other aiming method that has been marketed as being 'an objective AIMING system'?

That word, objective, has implications in the context of that phrase as opposed to other types of products.

Other products like scratch removal for cars are certainly marketed as 'objective' in that they WILL work for every scratch, yet get one too wide & it will not work.

The wrongs of others does not make right the wrong of another.

You almost seem here to be accusing Stan of intentional false marketing or perhaps suggesting that I am.

I & some others have NEVER done that.

As to how YOU shop, that is YOU. Everyone is not like you. Some will hear that description & be enticed simply by it alone. I was intrigued when I first heard it.

THAT is the issue. Something should NOT be inaccurately described.

Also, please keep in mind that the outlay of money is not even an issue when compared to the expenditure of TIME.

One should NOT be enticed to spend their TIME by an inaccurate description.

But, again, I am glad that you realize that it is NOT 'an objective aiming system' & had the GUTS to say so as you are a user of the method.

NOW, I only hope that 'they' will not 'assault' you with loads of vitriol of the kind that has been launched at me & others.

I suspect that 'they' will first try to convince you to change your mind & if you do not, then 'they' will try to run you off so as to silence you from ever saying such again.

But... that might not happen as you are a user of the method & could be considered a supporter of it even if not fully.

Best Wishes 2 You & Yours,
Rick