Instructors - How Do I Overcome This?

[DrCue'sProtege]

How do you overcome thinking stuff like this as you get over a shot?

"I know I'm going to miss"

"Oh sh~t, just wait and see, I'll miss this shot"


r/DCP

 

[Bob Jewett]

How do you overcome thinking stuff like this as you get over a shot?

"I know I'm going to miss"

"Oh sh~t, just wait and see, I'll miss this shot"


r/DCP

Practice that shot. If you're thinking those negative thoughts because of competition, play in more competition.

 

[Neil]

Quit judging. Just observe what transpires. Just perform the task at hand, and observe it.

If you think like a loser, you will become a loser. You are what you feed. Either positive, or negative.

 

[justadub]

I'm no instructor, but every time that I question whether I can make a given shot, I will miss. Every time.

As to your question, I don't know how to combat it, beyond standing back up, starting the process over again with a reinforced attitude about the shot. Much easier said than done. I hope to learn how myself. And I'll be following along here to see what others say about the subject.

Good luck.

 

[ENGLISH!]

If it is a shot that you have never made before then you would perhaps be justified to have doubt.

If it is a shot that you have made before then there is no need to doubt.

Say to your self, "That's ridiculous! I've made this shot hundreds (or thousands) of times & there is no reason why I can not make it now & I am going to make it now.'.

Then assess the shot & go down focused & make the shot.

The key is the word "focused". If you are saying to yourself that you will miss a shot it is probably because your mind is focused on other things,

Get focused on just the shot & the shot alone & making the shot.

All Best Wishes for ALL.

 

[Bank it]

Quit judging. Just observe what transpires. Just perform the task at hand, and observe it.

If you think like a loser, you will become a loser. You are what you feed. Either positive, or negative.

^^^^^ Wise words here. If you step into the situation with a negative expectation, well that's probably the result you'll get.

 

[ENGLISH!]

^^^^^ Wise words here. If you step into the situation with a negative expectation, well that's probably the result you'll get.

Personally I don't like the way that was worded & is not wise as I see it worded.

It implies that one can simply play well by having positive thoughts.

That is almost never the case in & of itself alone.

It takes more than just having positive thoughts.

Negative thoughts can be harmful to how one plays but I have seen rather many a positive over confident ball player loose games for their teammates because of their positive thoughts.

I think a good balanced solid thinking is actually better than 'positive' thoughts.

All shots are not equal for all individuals & sometimes a loosely played shot due to 'positive' thoughts can cause a loss.

Just my different viewpoint based on seeing over confident players blow it.

All Best Wishes to YOU & Yours... & All.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Once you learn that your conscience mind will talk to your unconscience mind, and it will do what the conscience mind wants, you will realize the importance of getting negative thoughts out of your head.

Instead of dwelling on what is going to happen when I shoot this shot and miss, start thinking about the little things like executing the perfect stroke. See the shot in your mind, hear the contact of the cue and balls see it drop into the pocket. The more real you can make this visualization the better you can feed your unconcience mind of what it is you want it to do.

I learned these techniques long ago as a competitive powerlifter. It is almost like self hypnosis, which at least for me gets me into dead punch.

No room for negative here.

How do you overcome thinking stuff like this as you get over a shot?

"I know I'm going to miss"

"Oh sh~t, just wait and see, I'll miss this shot"


r/DCP

 

[Bank it]

Personally I don't like the way that was worded & is not wise as I see it worded.

It implies that one can simply play well by having positive thoughts.

That is almost never the case in & of itself alone.

It takes more than just having positive thoughts.

Negative thoughts can be harmful to how one plays but I have seen rather many a positive over confident ball player loose games for their teammates because of their positive thoughts.

I think a good balanced solid thinking is actually better than 'positive' thoughts.

All shots are not equal for all individuals & sometimes a loosely played shot due to 'positive' thoughts can cause a loss.

Just my different viewpoint based on seeing over confident players blow it.

All Best Wishes to YOU & Yours... & All.

Yeah, you seem to thrive on different viewpoints. You've taken certain liberties stating what you think my post "implies". It must be a difficult burden to be so much smarter than everyone else.

 

[Neil]

Personally I don't like the way that was worded & is not wise as I see it worded.

It implies that one can simply play well by having positive thoughts.

That is almost never the case in & of itself alone.

It takes more than just having positive thoughts.

Negative thoughts can be harmful to how one plays but I have seen rather many a positive over confident ball player loose games for their teammates because of their positive thoughts.

I think a good balanced solid thinking is actually better than 'positive' thoughts.

All shots are not equal for all individuals & sometimes a loosely played shot due to 'positive' thoughts can cause a loss.

Just my different viewpoint based on seeing over confident players blow it.

All Best Wishes to YOU & Yours... & All.

Doesn't surprise me a bit that you would agree with the negative, but have a problem with something positive.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Yeah, you seem to thrive on different viewpoints. You've taken certain liberties stating what you think my post "implies". It must be a difficult burden to be so much smarter than everyone else.

I did not say or mean to say that YOUR post implied anything.

I was referring to what his post seemed to imply.

So is it you that is now taking liberties stating that I was taking liberties with your post when I was not?

I have never seen intelligence as a burden. What it is is a blessing & it is nothing for which to take pride & I certainly do not.

All Best Wishes for YOU & YOURS... & ALL.

& You have a good evening.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Once you learn that your conscience mind will talk to your unconscience mind, and it will do what the conscience mind wants, you will realize the importance of getting negative thoughts out of your head.

Instead of dwelling on what is going to happen when I shoot this shot and miss, start thinking about the little things like executing the perfect stroke. See the shot in your mind, hear the contact of the cue and balls see it drop into the pocket. The more real you can make this visualization the better you can feed your unconcience mind of what it is you want it to do.

I learned these techniques long ago as a competitive powerlifter. It is almost like self hypnosis, which at least for me gets me into dead punch.

No room for negative here.

Fairly good post.:thumbup:

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

Well, I did manage to run out a couple of racks of 9-Ball today. On my Gold Crown IV, now with 4.25 inch pockets, to me that is very good.

I did, however, run into this very same "Jeez, I'm Going To Miss This!" scenario again. I had played a pretty good rack and made a tough cut into the side on the 8-Ball and came around three rails to get the position on the 9-Ball in the table below. And I missed. I overcut it just enough where on 4.25 inch pockets it wouldn't fall. I just had that feeling I was going to miss.

r/DCP

https://pad.chalkysticks.com/ccd75

 

[BeiberLvr]

Personally I don't like the way that was worded & is not wise as I see it worded.

It implies that one can simply play well by having positive thoughts.

That is almost never the case in & of itself alone.

It takes more than just having positive thoughts.

Negative thoughts can be harmful to how one plays but I have seen rather many a positive over confident ball player loose games for their teammates because of their positive thoughts.

I think a good balanced solid thinking is actually better than 'positive' thoughts.

All shots are not equal for all individuals & sometimes a loosely played shot due to 'positive' thoughts can cause a loss.

Just my different viewpoint based on seeing over confident players blow it.

All Best Wishes to YOU & Yours... & All.

Sugar,

Of course it takes more than positive thoughts. If that weren't the case, we'd all be pros. What Neil was saying is that regardless of your level, you should approach each shot with confidence and a positive mindset. Example, opponent misses the 9 and leaves it on the end rail with the CB on the opposite end rail.

Negative mindset...

"Dammit! He got lucky again!"


Positive mindset...

"He got a good roll, but at least I'm back at the table. Here's an opportunity for me to show what I've got"


You still need the skill to execute, but take two players of equal skill and give them the shot in the example in a high pressure match. One with a negative mindset and with a positive mindset. I don't think I need to tell a self appointed genius such as yourself which player is more likely to have a good outcome.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Well, I did manage to run out a couple of racks of 9-Ball today. On my Gold Crown IV, now with 4.25 inch pockets, to me that is very good.

I did, however, run into this very same "Jeez, I'm Going To Miss This!" scenario again. I had played a pretty good rack and made a tough cut into the side on the 8-Ball and came around three rails to get the position on the 9-Ball in the table below. And I missed. I overcut it just enough where on 4.25 inch pockets it wouldn't fall. I just had that feeling I was going to miss.

r/DCP

https://pad.chalkysticks.com/ccd75

Mike,

Since my eye issue & even after getting with Gene, there are shots that I too now have that feeling...

&... if I just shoot it, it usually is a miss or it might rattle in.

I have never been one to get up off of shots, but with some of my new found issues, I am now just bobbing up & going back down while I make sure that I do the manual method the Gene gave me.

When I do that I make a shot that I had a bad feeling about AND...

I do not have that bad feeling, knowing that I did the manual method.

Again I am just telling you this so that you keep Gene in mind should matters not get better.

ALL Best Wishes for You & Yours,
Rick

 

[ENGLISH!]

Sugar,

Of course it takes more than positive thoughts. If that weren't the case, we'd all be pros. What Neil was saying is that regardless of your level, you should approach each shot with confidence and a positive mindset. Example, opponent misses the 9 and leaves it on the end rail with the CB on the opposite end rail.

Negative mindset...

"Dammit! He got lucky again!"


Positive mindset...

"He got a good roll, but at least I'm back at the table. Here's an opportunity for me to show what I've got"


You still need the skill to execute, but take two players of equal skill and give them the shot in the example in a high pressure match. One with a negative mindset and with a positive mindset. I don't think I need to tell a self appointed genius such as yourself which player is more likely to have a good outcome.

Tart,

As I stated... that way of saying it & the way it was said earlier can be misleading saying it in that simplistic manner.

I've explained what I meant & if you are too simplistic & incapable of understanding the difference...

I am not responsible for that & I can not help that.

Hell, I said much the same thing but in a different manner.

I know what it takes to not dog shots & what it takes to win. Way back in the day when I was playing money, BCA, & APA Leagues, I always had the highest winning percentage except for a semi pro ringer that only played enough to qualify for playoffs & I also always won the most run outs award. That was in the Metro New Orleans area & not in a one blinking light one cross street little town.

So I do not need you preaching to me the simplicity of positive vs negative when there is more to it than that.

I guess you missed what I said about the many positive players that lost games because of their over positive attitude.

Hell, Mike Deshaine may have been solely responsible for team USA losing the Mosconi Cup. Not really, but he contributed to the loss on several occasions. What more positive attitude can one have than what he has?

So... Best to Ya SweetTart.

 

[Neil]

Tart,

As I stated... that way of saying it & the way it was said earlier can be misleading saying it in that simplistic manner.

I've explained what I meant & if you are too simplistic & incapable of understanding the difference...

I am not responsible for that & I can not help that.

Hell, I said much the same thing but in a different manner.

I know what it takes to not dog shots & what it takes to win. Way back in the day when I was playing money, BCA, & APA Leagues, I always had the highest winning percentage except for a semi pro ringer that only played enough to qualify for playoffs & I also always won the most run outs award. That was in the Metro New Orleans area & not in a one blinking light one cross street little town.

So I do not need you preaching to me the simplicity of positive vs negative when there is more to it than that.

I guess you missed what I said about the many positive players that lost games because of their over positive attitude.

Hell, Mike Deshaine may have been solely responsible for team USA losing the Mosconi Cup. Not really, but he contributed to the loss on several occasions. What more positive attitude can one have than what he has?

So... Best to Ya SweetTart.

Sorry that you still didn't understand it even though it was in a simplistic manner.

Why keep bringing up your league standings? Without more clarification, it means nothing except that you were sandbagging to win it all the time. One of my students just won best female player in one of the leagues she plays in, and she is just an APA 6 (C level player).

 

[ENGLISH!]

Sorry that you still didn't understand it even though it was in a simplistic manner.

Why keep bringing up your league standings? Without more clarification, it means nothing except that you were sandbagging to win it all the time. One of my students just won best female player in one of the leagues she plays in, and she is just an APA 6 (C level player).

I've never sandbagged or thrown any sporting competition in my life.

But since you bring it up, I would not put it past you to do so.

I understand way more than the simplistic explanation that you tried to give.

I am sorry that all you can ONLY understand is the simplistic version that you put out that is so lacking of the real understanding & explanation.

 

[Cameron Smith]

How do you overcome thinking stuff like this as you get over a shot?

"I know I'm going to miss"

"Oh sh~t, just wait and see, I'll miss this shot"


r/DCP

Focus on what you want to do, not on what you don't want to do. I try not to attach any judgement to any shot, even easy ones. Every shot there is a goal to achieve and that is the focus. No matter the shot in front of you just push the cue through straight at the desired speed.

I've found spending a little time practicing playing quickly and without warm up strokes helps me loosen up and just play on instinct.

 

[BeiberLvr]

Tart,

As I stated... that way of saying it & the way it was said earlier can be misleading saying it in that simplistic manner.

I've explained what I meant & if you are too simplistic & incapable of understanding the difference...

I am not responsible for that & I can not help that.

Hell, I said much the same thing but in a different manner.

I know what it takes to not dog shots & what it takes to win. Way back in the day when I was playing money, BCA, & APA Leagues, I always had the highest winning percentage except for a semi pro ringer that only played enough to qualify for playoffs & I also always won the most run outs award. That was in the Metro New Orleans area & not in a one blinking light one cross street little town.

So I do not need you preaching to me the simplicity of positive vs negative when there is more to it than that.

I guess you missed what I said about the many positive players that lost games because of their over positive attitude.

Hell, Mike Deshaine may have been solely responsible for team USA losing the Mosconi Cup. Not really, but he contributed to the loss on several occasions. What more positive attitude can one have than what he has?

So... Best to Ya SweetTart.

I once had dinner with the prime minister from Britain. He started choking on a piece of shrimp, but luckily I was able to give him the Heimlich and saved his life. I was invited to the castle to meet the Queen. They had a big ceremony in my honor.

See? I can make up stories too.


As for Mike Dechaine and the Mosconi Cup. Do you honestly believe he had a positive mindset during his struggles at the MC? I guess you really are omniscient. Mike has a bit of an ego. Arrogance is NOT confidence.