Instructors

SlickRick_PCS said:
Yea, I've noticed that Scott Lee isn't in the list.
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The BCA staff is in a flux, with the move of administrative functions to an outside source in Atlanta. Since I moved from MT to MI last year, there was a mixup in my instructor dues paperwork a few months ago. It has been alleviated only just recently, and obviously they haven't fixed the omission on the website yet. Like Bob Jewett and Randyg, I have been part of the BCA Certification program since it's inception 20 yrs ago.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
People talk about improving the image of pool and I wonder if instructors would be one of the better groups to accomplish this. I see a slightly different mentality among the instructors than among the pros. There seems to be an appreciation for the game from the perspective of making the game better for others rather than the benefits one can derive for self.

A self organizing association of well respected instructors could begin to set many standards for the game. There is a level of professionalism and dedication that could be a real driving force. Comments I have read about many of you here on AZB are indeed laudatory and suggest a high level of professionalism and dedication to your students.

When I practiced psychology I belonged to a several local, state and national professional associations. Private practitioners are in as much "competition" with each other as pocket billiards (to use Mosconi's term) instructors would be. In this sense we all found that supporting each other in a basically "loner's" profession was beneficial in many ways.

There was not as much competition as others would think. Other psychologists had more experience that I did in some areas and I would readily refer to other psychologists with different skills. Some people were better with some types of clients, and of course there was a regional referral aspect that promoted collegial relations. Some clients simply like to change psychologists and that too was more than acceptable.

More importantly, we supported each other with advanced seminars, colleagues to discuss issues with, and presented a united front to the public.

Perhaps this type of association where you set the standards would be of many uses to you and to the public. With the advent of the internet your meetings could often be in cybespace with annual face-to-face meeting rotated to different parts of the country. I think you could begin with a membership committee composed of three to five highly respected instructors who set the criteria for membership.

Just a thought, and I can imagine many good things from such a group's activities.

The war stories alone among such a group would probably be worth the effort. As a long time member of other professional groups I highly recommend the approach as useful, educational, and beneficial in many ways.

Perhaps one way to begin such an association would be with a private, password protected forum. At least one of you must have a web site ad the necessary computer skills where this could be setup and invite other instructors to participate.

For anyone who is interested, I could get copies of the charters or articles of incorporation from a few different professional organizations. There are several available.
 
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A considerable benefit that could derive from such an association would be in the idea that with the assistance of other members of the pool community your group could solicit sponsors for many activities. Businesses and others would indeed look for directions from such a knowledgeable and respected group.

You can certainly accomplish more as a group tha as individuals. BTW we used to rotate the presidency and other offices though our small local group so that eveyone eventually got the news coverage and improved their image in the local community. Just a taste of the kinds of things that could be done.

How about a seminar on rate setting??
 
JoeW said:
People talk about improving the image of pool and I wonder if instructors would be one of the better groups to accomplish this... snipped...
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Tap-tap-tap.
Joe, that represents the best approach I've seen anybody present to-date for addressing the problem of getting more people interested in our game.
 
On another thread I wrote that there are literally millions of players who are not denizens of pool halls. Recently I was reviewing a real estate magazine for million dollar homes. It was on someone?s table and an interesting read. Every one of the homes had a billiards room. This suggests a large market for professional instructors. The key would be highly professional and very trustworthy group. The potentials are enormous.
 
One Pocket

coopdeville said:
I'm curious to how many instructors we have here.
If you used to be, that counts too.

Give yourself a plug if you want to.

Thanks,
cOOp
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I teach only One Pocket - specializing in advanced One Pocket....I gave lessons to one of the current top 12 One Pocket players, and George Fels spoke highly of my One Pocket lessons in a past issue of Billiards Digest magazine.
 
I'm very near the end of the upgrade process to become an Advanced Level BCA instructor. My partner, Brad Hornshaw, is upgrading to the Certified level.

We run the Cascade Cue College in Bellevue Washington. Our school is based on the SPF approach we learned from Randy Goettlicher at Cue-Tech.
 
Scott Lee said:
Joe...This is something that we have discussed and may not be far off from happening. The BCA Board of Directors have always been guilty of dragging their feet, and the instruction program is no different.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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I'm working on that problem right now.....SPF=randyg
 
randyg said:
I'm working on that problem right now.....SPF=randyg
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Randy, You know you can count on me for anything I can do along those lines.
Steve
 
I'm a Certified Instructor with the Billiard Sanctuary Academy of the Cueing Arts (BSACA), which was founded by a former BCA Instructor, Timothy White. From my knowledge of the BCA course outline, there's not much of a difference between the BSACA and the BCA.

Anyone willing to learn the sport and is willing to dedicate time, patience and has an open mind should seek a knowledgeable instructor. Remember, just because someone is a great player, doesn't mean that they can teach what they know.

Zim
 
Zims Rack said:
From my knowledge of the BCA course outline, there's not much of a difference between the BSACA and the BCA.
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Just credibility, integrity, and honesty is all. While the 'curriculum' may be similar, the standards of behavior differ by miles. Tim White continues to try to convince the world that he alone is responsible for Landon Shuffet's success at the pool table...even to the point of deliberately masquarading as him on an English pool website. Despicable behavior if you ask me...downright criminal, if I understand interpretation of the law correctly by some knowledgeable posters here. Why you'd want to be associated with him, Mike, is beyond me.

Scott Lee
 
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Zims Rack said:
I'm a Certified Instructor with the Billiard Sanctuary Academy of the Cueing Arts (BSACA), which was founded by a former BCA Instructor, Timothy White. From my knowledge of the BCA course outline, there's not much of a difference between the BSACA and the BCA.

Anyone willing to learn the sport and is willing to dedicate time, patience and has an open mind should seek a knowledgeable instructor. Remember, just because someone is a great player, doesn't mean that they can teach what they know.

Zim
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Zim: The BCA Instructors Program does not have an "outline" for teaching. Tim's is much closer to his Mentors than anything else......SPF=randyg
 
teach me

I gave my first "lesson" yesterday. We analyzed his stroke and
I taught him S.A.M. and SPF. He loved it, paid me (which I wasn't expecting)
and looks forward to reprogramming his pre shot routine.
It felt great to pass on some very valuable information to
someone who really wants to improve.
 
Scott Lee said:
Just credibility, integrity, and honesty is all. While the 'curriculum' may be similar, the standards of behavior differ by miles. Tim White continues to try to convince the world that he alone is responsible for Landon Shuffet's success at the pool table...even to the point of deliberately masquarading as him on an English pool website. Despicable behavior if you ask me...downright criminal, if I understand interpretation of the law correctly by some knowledgeable posters here. Why you'd want to be associated with him, Mike, is beyond me.

Scott Lee
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I am completely aware of what has/is going on between the BSACA and Landon, I have never once agreed with Tim nor approved of what has happened. You and I along with nearly everyone who knows the Shuffett's is aware of how Landon became what he is today is will become. My hats off to Stan and everyone that has supported him and Landon. Despite what personal feelings people have about Tim, what/howhe teaches is very good material. I have never knocked the BCA or put the BSACA above the BCA; all I can currently stand by is that what the BSACA has taught me works very well and has been understood by all of my students.

I do have a desire to join the BCA SPF Instructors in the future, but as I have mentioned to a couple of you, time and money are holding me back right now.

Please don't look at me negatively just because I have received my Certification thru Tim and the BSACA, it's not who I'm associated with, it's that I have a deep passion to encourage our industry to grow in many aspects and love the sport immensly.

Best of luck to all of us,
Zim
 
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I Teach Poker... Now

I used to teach A players the fundamentals of one-pocket. They were required to pay me in pitchers of beer. It seemed that the more they paid me, the less they understood. I took many A players and made C players of them. Most of my players stopped paying me, because I pissed away their payments.
Doug
( I was certified...... or certifiable )
 
coopdeville said:
I gave my first "lesson" yesterday. We analyzed his stroke and
I taught him S.A.M. and SPF. He loved it, paid me (which I wasn't expecting)
and looks forward to reprogramming his pre shot routine.
It felt great to pass on some very valuable information to
someone who really wants to improve.
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Good job. Remember that S.A.M is usless with out SPF.....SPF=randyg
 
Zims Rack said:
I am completely aware of what has/is going on between the BSACA and Landon, I have never once agreed with Tim nor approved of what has happened. You and I along with nearly everyone who knows the Shuffett's is aware of how Landon became what he is today is will become. My hats off to Stan and everyone that has supported him and Landon. Despite what personal feelings people have about Tim, what/howhe teaches is very good material. I have never knocked the BCA or put the BSACA above the BCA; all I can currently stand by is that what the BSACA has taught me works very well and has been understood by all of my students.

I do have a desire to join the BCA SPF Instructors in the future, but as I have mentioned to a couple of you, time and money are holding me back right now.

Please don't look at me negatively just because I have received my Certification thru Tim and the BSACA, it's not who I'm associated with, it's that I have a deep passion to encourage our industry to grow in many aspects and love the sport immensly.

Best of luck to all of us,
Zim
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Thank you Mike, for an honest reply! You have a great attitude, and I'm sure some great information and teaching methods. Afterall, Tim did learn from Randyg! :D Sorry I posted that way. I really meant nothing personal against you. It's a shame that Tim continues his obnoxious behavior. It will come back to bite him in the end! Good luck with your teaching, and we would love to have you as an SPF instructor anytime you desire! I look forward to an opportunity to exchange ideas over a pool table sometime when I'm down in your neck of the woods!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
Scott Lee said:
Thank you Mike, for an honest reply! You have a great attitude, and I'm sure some great information and teaching methods. Afterall, Tim did learn from Randyg! :D Sorry I posted that way. I really meant nothing personal against you. It's a shame that Tim continues his obnoxious behavior. It will come back to bite him in the end! Good luck with your teaching, and we would love to have you as an SPF instructor anytime you desire! I look forward to an opportunity to exchange ideas over a pool table sometime when I'm down in your neck of the woods!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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DITTO....randyg
 
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