interesting bank shot
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Banks that do go-- but do
This "jump over the kiss shot," is amptly covered and demonstrated in my new pool DVD, Bank Shots That Don't go -- But do.
the Beard
steev said:
This "jump over the kiss shot," is amptly covered and demonstrated in my new pool DVD, Bank Shots That Don't go -- But do.
the Beard
Are you talking about jumping the OB by jumping the CB? This is pretty tricky on a cut shot because the cut angle changes when hitting the OB from above, and by different amounts depending on how high the CB goes.
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Patrick Johnson said:
No that's a different shot. I'm talking about shooting hard with a good amount of draw but kind of like a punch stroke. The object ball will jump considerably coming off the rail. It's useful in those shots where you can't get the CB out of the way and shots where there's another ball blocking the path.
ok, so after sleeping all night and reading everyone's reponses, here, my last comment on it:
i specifically pointed out in my first post that alternative shots were of no importance to this discussion. your beliefs as to the makeability are not the issue. we are talking about a bar table here, and yes, there was other traffic on the table.
i have found this shot to be enjoyable for myself, and yes, i frequently play for fun (OMG!). the fact that freddy got on the thread made me feel better after reading a page full of people pissing on my thread.
also, thanks to drew for defending my shot while i slept
-s
i specifically pointed out in my first post that alternative shots were of no importance to this discussion. your beliefs as to the makeability are not the issue. we are talking about a bar table here, and yes, there was other traffic on the table.
i have found this shot to be enjoyable for myself, and yes, i frequently play for fun (OMG!). the fact that freddy got on the thread made me feel better after reading a page full of people pissing on my thread.
also, thanks to drew for defending my shot while i slept
-s
steev said:ok, so after sleeping all night and reading everyone's reponses, here, my last comment on it:
i specifically pointed out in my first post that alternative shots were of no importance to this discussion. your beliefs as to the makeability are not the issue. we are talking about a bar table here, and yes, there was other traffic on the table.
i have found this shot to be enjoyable for myself, and yes, i frequently play for fun (OMG!). the fact that freddy got on the thread made me feel better after reading a page full of people pissing on my thread.
also, thanks to drew for defending my shot while i slept
-s
Don't worry steev, I didn't piss on your shot. LMAO !
though I just pointed out the type of shots that I would do in that scenario. I have seen your shot performed by others, just never really tried it myself and might never will, even in practice. I don't like the idea of balls flying around. they just catch too much attention from other players.
Hail Mary Shot said:
This is, by far, the correct way to go about making this shot. It's surprisingly easy. The key is to hit it with a medium stroke, definitely not hard.
Why put left spin on it rather than just a little angle on the shot? (Not challenging you, Drew, just curious...)
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Jude Rosenstock said:
I have rarely gotten this to work, simply because the cue ball does not get out of the way in time. I think the problem is my visualization of the angle of the bank. If the angle is very acute (say...20 degrees), then no matter how much bottom inside you put on it, the balls will always kiss. I think in that situation a slight jump is more reliable.
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steev said:ok, so after sleeping all night and reading everyone's reponses, here, my last comment on it:
i specifically pointed out in my first post that alternative shots were of no importance to this discussion. your beliefs as to the makeability are not the issue. we are talking about a bar table here, and yes, there was other traffic on the table.
i have found this shot to be enjoyable for myself, and yes, i frequently play for fun (OMG!). the fact that freddy got on the thread made me feel better after reading a page full of people pissing on my thread.
also, thanks to drew for defending my shot while i slept
-s
I wasn't pissing on your thread... you obviously posted it intending on sparking a discussion. you don't have a discussion if everyone agrees with you...
start a thread that says when hitting a break shot I prefer to hit the rack... no one will argue that point and the thread will die... there will not be 500+ views and 30+ responses.
I wasn't pissing on you or your skills I was pissing on your shot selection. if your forced into that position there are smarter shots to get out of it.. I am not the only one to say so... if you put yourself in that spot then you need to put more work on your position play... than you do into mastering circus shots.
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Jump? nah, just slide across the OB with side, and good speed.. HARD isnt nessasairly correct...the best thing to do is get out there and hit these shots, I advise shooting them easy at first, try any and all english, and learn the effects. I could tell you exactly how to play this shot, but I think its better for you to try this out yourself. I will say you do need to apply spin to the OB ball, so you overcut the shot slightly, the spin corrects the angle and the ball drops.
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Freddy "the Beard" has instruction for banks with kisses on his DVD set Banks That Don't Go? But Do! http://www.8-ballbible.com/bankdvd.html
klockdoc said:
Freddy "the Beard" has instruction for banks with kisses on his DVD set Banks That Don't Go? But Do! http://www.8-ballbible.com/bankdvd.html
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you can cross cut this shot using english to correct the angle.. you cant hit this hard, as it will bank 2 times, so If you want one rail, use inside spin, and good speed..
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all well....
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Im having trouble with cuetable, I hit the copy URL button, then use control V to paste it, but all im getting is a blank cuetable?????????????
all well....
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So you're a lousy banker?
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as this got a little talk today, consider why i chose this slightly crazy option:
1. bar table - less space to get CB outta the way
2. dirty! - more throw, less rail grab (kinda +1/-1 here)
3. heavy cueball - harder to get out of the way
if i were lucky enough to play on 9' tables with simonis and red dot CB's all the time, i'd be spinning this in, one way or the other, all day.
and, for the record, i don't bank all that well...
it is awfully fun to make though.
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1. bar table - less space to get CB outta the way
2. dirty! - more throw, less rail grab (kinda +1/-1 here)
3. heavy cueball - harder to get out of the way
if i were lucky enough to play on 9' tables with simonis and red dot CB's all the time, i'd be spinning this in, one way or the other, all day.
and, for the record, i don't bank all that well...
it is awfully fun to make though.
-s
This shot is tricky because if you hit head into the ball inside spin is left, in whitch your trying to "HOLD" the ball, the way Id shoot it, you shoot across the OB "CROSS CUT" and you use inside english whitch would be right hand spin... whitch with good speed will turn the object ball enough to bank it cross side... If you hit this to hard, it banks twice, into the oposite side pocket.. this will also happen with HOLD IT UP english hitting more straight on, hitting it hard...
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steev said:
Are you hitting it slow enough? This is very important to maximize the effect of the inside spin so you can hit it with enough angle to keep the CB out of the way.
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