International Paper Micarta

[blokid]

Hi all buddies,
I'm wonder how feel of Micarta from International Paper is. Compare it to Westinghouse Yellow-Paper Micarta.
Please give me advice.

Thanks

 

[pdcue]

Hi all buddies,
I'm wonder how feel of Micarta from International Paper is. Compare it to Westinghouse Yellow-Paper Micarta.
Please give me advice.

Thanks

International was the first corp to buy the plastics division from Westinghouse.

By that time - the original "cue ferrule/knife handle-ages-like-ivory" Micarta was
no longer being made.

International white Micarta is not at all like the original material - I would never use
it for a ferrule.

Dale

 

[JTs cuerepair]

Ferrules

I would hold what pdcue says about Micarta very highly, I honestly think he knows more about this subject then anyone here on AZ, Seriously

Sending PM Dale

 

[Hunter]

International was the first corp to buy the plastics division from Westinghouse.

By that time - the original "cue ferrule/knife handle-ages-like-ivory" Micarta was
no longer being made.

International white Micarta is not at all like the original material - I would never use
it for a ferrule.

Dale

Hi Dale,

What is the difference other than the asbestos? Have you tried their yellow paper? Just a curiosity. I spent twenty plus years in the plastic business, and have dealt with the different phenolics for years. I bought a little chunk of the yellow off Ebay recently and figured I'd have a couple of ferrules made to see if it played like the old Westinghouse materials. Are they a harder/softer durometer? A lot heavier or harder? Terrible to machine, etc.?

A lot of people that fabricate products out of asbestos were glad to see the material banned, but we also had a gasket division, and there was a huge gap left when they did away with asbestos. The only thing that can handle the temps that asbestos did is ceramic fiber or one of the really exotic gasketing materials. Unfortunately, they are very flimsy and quite expensive, and just aren't the best materials for boilers and applications around 1200 degrees F.

It made sense to do away with it for anyone who was exposed to it via the air, but they really screwed up for gaskets. Once asbestos is vulcanized with a rubber binder, it can't hurt anyone. It's not poisonous, it just has tiny little sharp particles in it that don't mix well with human lungs.

I sure liked the hit of the old Westinghouse ferrules! I wonder what is was that made it so much better than today's laminates?

Regards,

Steve

 

[pdcue]

Hi Dale,

What is the difference other than the asbestos? Have you tried their yellow paper? Just a curiosity. I spent twenty plus years in the plastic business, and have dealt with the different phenolics for years. I bought a little chunk of the yellow off Ebay recently and figured I'd have a couple of ferrules made to see if it played like the old Westinghouse materials. Are they a harder/softer durometer? A lot heavier or harder? Terrible to machine, etc.?

A lot of people that fabricate products out of asbestos were glad to see the material banned, but we also had a gasket division, and there was a huge gap left when they did away with asbestos. The only thing that can handle the temps that asbestos did is ceramic fiber or one of the really exotic gasketing materials. Unfortunately, they are very flimsy and quite expensive, and just aren't the best materials for boilers and applications around 1200 degrees F.

It made sense to do away with it for anyone who was exposed to it via the air, but they really screwed up for gaskets. Once asbestos is vulcanized with a rubber binder, it can't hurt anyone. It's not poisonous, it just has tiny little sharp particles in it that don't mix well with human lungs.

I sure liked the hit of the old Westinghouse ferrules! I wonder what is was that made it so much better than today's laminates?

Regards,

Steve

The cue ferrule material does not have any asbestos in it and it is not laminated.

Only the military could acquire the asbestos version.

It also is not a phenolic. There never was a yellow Micarta, it was white that yellowed
over time - somewhat like ivory.

Dale

 

[Hunter]

The cue ferrule material does not have any asbestos in it and it is not laminated.

Only the military could acquire the asbestos version.

It also is not a phenolic. There never was a yellow Micarta, it was white that yellowed
over time - somewhat like ivory.

Dale

Thanks Dale!