Ipods???

If you really want to tune stuff out I reccommend either Shure or Etymotic headphones/earbuds to go with your mp3 player. They are sound isolating headphones and work ten times better than noise cancelling headphones. The downside is they run $100-$500.

-Andy
 
APA rules do not allow headphones on during a league match, I checked because I am an ipod owner as well and I pracitce a lot with mine and wear it when I dont shoot APA occasionally unless I am with friends.
 
Pete said:
Hi All,

I got an IPOD for the holiday (to use for pool), and I was wondering, is it OK to wear an IPOD or musical device when playing/competing at league or in tournaments?

If someone you where playing in either would you com[plain or want to complain? I know that when I practice it would be nice to shut out the world around, but is that OK durring a match, I don't know.

Pete
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I asked a head referee of EPBF of this (also WPA official). He said you cannot listen to music with a device like that. It's a sort of head wear which is illegal. But I guess local tournaments could accept this, if you make sure beforehand it's allowed from the TD.
 
Pete said:
Hi All,

I got an IPOD for the holiday (to use for pool), and I was wondering, is it OK to wear an IPOD or musical device when playing/competing at league or in tournaments?

If someone you where playing in either would you com[plain or want to complain? I know that when I practice it would be nice to shut out the world around, but is that OK durring a match, I don't know.

Pete
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It seems kind of disrespectful to your opponent to me. There's a fella I frequently play a couple hours of cheap sets with before league who started wearing one. I'll flip a coin and say "call it" and get no response. I'll say "hey watch this shot; it's gonna be close" and get no response. I'll want to comment on a shot after he gets out and then just forget it; it's not important enough wave at him and get him to de-pod. We actually talk very little when we play. But his ipod has made me realize how important it is to me to feel somehow engaged with my opponent.

My son posed the following question during his xmas visit: what's more rude, engaging a clerk at the store counter while talking on the cell phone or while having earbuds in your ears?

mike page <-- dismayed at the trends
fargo
 
And in today's paper ...

in the celebrity little section, it had a warning for Ipod
(or anyone wearing earphones a lot) from Pete Townsend
of The Who, who has lost part of his hearing from wearing
headphones in recording studios so much. So you might keep
that in mind when listening to that heavy bass beat with
your earphones on.
 
I wear mine, but just not so loud I can not hear my opponant. I also make sure I pay attention, so if they need to call a push. If the house music is so loud I have to turn it up higher, I turn it off.
 
my only complaint is that it's enough that i see ipods wherever i go. i think people should try other better mp3 players.
 
mjantti said:
I asked a head referee of EPBF of this (also WPA official). He said you cannot listen to music with a device like that. It's a sort of head wear which is illegal. But I guess local tournaments could accept this, if you make sure beforehand it's allowed from the TD.
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I asked the same thing to Mr. David Morris, Eurotour TD, and he answered that playerd are not allowed to play with earplugs during competition.
Mikko, did we ask the same question to the same person?:)
 
tom said:
I asked the same thing to Mr. David Morris, Eurotour TD, and he answered that playerd are not allowed to play with earplugs during competition.
Mikko, did we ask the same question to the same person?:)
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Hehey Tom. Well, I asked the question during EPBF rules and referee seminar and got the same answer. No music headwear, no earplugs.

:)
 
bruin70 said:
my only complaint is that it's enough that i see ipods wherever i go. i think people should try other better mp3 players.
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What do you use? I hate Ipods as well. I have an Iriver h10 20gb and think it is much better than the Ipods my friends have. I have also heard good things about the Zen mp3 players.

-Andy
 
I've got both an iPod (fifth generation, 60Gb) and a Creative Zen Xtra (40Gb). Sound quality, they're comparable, but the iPod, due to its AAC encoding, is much closer to the original music (mp3 is far inferior to AAC). But, for ease of use, the iPod blows it out of the water. It's got five buttons, a wheel, and a hold switch. My Zen has a clumsy thumb wheel, play, forward, back, volume up/down, on/off/hold.. anyhow, it's a pain in the neck to use it.

Anyhow, I love my iPod.. I even practice with it (BTW: those Shure and Etymotic earbuds you're talking about - I've got a pair of Panasonic sound cancelling earbuds.. they sound *great*, reduce outside noise by about 25db, and only cost $30) and you're right, it's really hard to hear even your own break. Kind of a different perspective on the game..

But, reading some earlier comments (such as, what if my opponent can't hear me call foul, push, hit, pocket...etc..).. Are you suggesting that someone who's hearing impaired shouldn't be allowed to play?
 
I'd Say No

If you are practicing by yourself, it's fine. In league or a tournament, I'd say definitely no, unless maybe you only use one earpiece. You should be able to hear the opponent call for a ref, fouls, etc.

In general, I just think it's kind of rude to wear one in a match. A guy I used to play straight pool with would come in with a portable CD player. Bugged the crap out of me.
 
MarkJS said:
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But, reading some earlier comments (such as, what if my opponent can't hear me call foul, push, hit, pocket...etc..).. Are you suggesting that someone who's hearing impaired shouldn't be allowed to play?
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That would be quite a logical leap, imo.

mike page
fargo
 
The only thing holding me back from buying an iPod is that I would have to cheat to get my music into it, which would degrade the sound even further. I have 5,526 songs spanning over 444 albums all as mp3s. This takes up over 31gb. Sorry but I don't want to have to burn 444 cds to get them onto the iPod. Not to mention the sound quality that you lose when converting mp3 to cda.

I buy all my mp3s at .02 a mb thru allofmp3.com. You can choose the audio format that is most preferable.

I can count the number of players, that use private audio, on one hand that I have seen at pool halls in the last year.
 
The last person I watched, whom was deaf, was Shane from SD. HE never lost a beat on the table or from his opponent. I would assume that a deaf person would pay more attention to the game and his opponent.
 
If you *really* want to irritate your opponent and want to win, wear one of these things and sing the song out loud. The louder the better!

Your opponent will only hear you singing and not the music. I assure you your opponent will make sure you win with a quickness so he can quickly get as far away from you as possible:eek:
 
I don't play pool in a league. I imagine it'd be pretty rude to be that much "in your own world."

And what if someone wasn't actually listening to music, but tips or training stuff? Or mild hypnosis?

Or what if the music was calming to slow down a fast player who tends to make fast mistakes? Where do you draw the line?

Me, I'd draw it at: okay if you're by yourself and practicing, not okay in almost every other instance.
 
mikepage said:
That would be quite a logical leap, imo.

mike page
fargo
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Mike,

I don't think that's logical - hearing reduction due to headphone use is intentional and reversible, physical hearing impairment is neither.

Just a thought.
 
mikepage said:
... But his ipod has made me realize how important it is to me to feel somehow engaged with my opponent.

...

mike page <-- dismayed at the trends
fargo
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I agree with this - I personally prefer some interaction with the other player (provided it's positive! :eek: ).
 
Snapshot9 said:
in the celebrity little section, it had a warning for Ipod
(or anyone wearing earphones a lot) from Pete Townsend
of The Who, who has lost part of his hearing from wearing
headphones in recording studios so much. So you might keep
that in mind when listening to that heavy bass beat with
your earphones on.
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Pete Townshend can blame earphones if he wants to, but anyone who plays concerts for 35 years is bound to go deaf. They once held the record for the loudest decibel level ever at a musical performance (by design I might add). Ain't no Ipod gonna hand out the ass whippin his ears have taken.

On the subject at hand. I went to a tournament with Hennessee about a year ago when he started wearing his Ipod when playing. It seemed like it would distract him more than not wearing it. He was always adjusting the earpiece, changing tunes, worrying about the cord etc. Too much work for me. I figure if you drink enough beer any music sounds good and you are harder to shark when you are drunk.:D
 
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