IPT compliant Break Cue tips

Snapshot9

Snapshot9

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I would like to get some cuemaker's comments on the best type of tip to use on a Break cue for the IPt tour?

I don't think that the entire tip has to be leather, but the part contacting the cueball does? Also, I don't know if they restrict phenolic ferrules?

Could a tip be done where part of the tip was phenolic with a very hard leather layer on top of it, say buffalo layer?

Or would it just be better for just a shallow buffalo tip to be put onto, say a phenolic ferrule work the best for the IPt?

Is it possible to have small leather pieces, or screens, interwoven into a phenolic resin that would meet IPT requirements?
 
The Super Pro is what I have had the most requests for. I had 4 local players go the North American 8 ball tournament and that's what they all took on their break cues.

It is a very very hard water buffalo tip, but it is all leather and therefore legal in IPT events. It is so hard that you would not want to play with it, in my opinion, but not quite as hard as phenolic (obviously).

You can buy them from Prather, or get them on ebay from Cowboy Bob's billiards. I think they cost me $25 a box of 50 last time.

JWP
 
I have used that one also... very hard and great for breaking.

Super Pro is 50 cents per tip, vs. the Tiger at $14.95 per tip. I am sure the Tiger is better in some way, but I can't honestly say I see the $14 difference.

I do stock them both, though. Whichever the customer wants, he gets. I have had really good results with the Sniper and Everest tips. I just can't seem to get customers to pay $25 installed for a Break tip.

JWP
 
I have tried a few and I go back to the moori everytime. I have tried the Tiger also but I don't need a tip that hard for breaking but they are a good tip.
 
Or....if you want to be sneaky (and illegal) you can drill a 5/16 hole into the center of the SuperPro and fill it with black phenolic. This works wonderful.;)
 
Varney Cues said:
Or....if you want to be sneaky (and illegal) you can drill a 5/16 hole into the center of the SuperPro and fill it with black phenolic. This works wonderful.;)
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Pretty sneaky, (I THINK I LIKE IT)
 
Nice tip

The Tiger tip was simply a suggestion. I try not to see into customer's pockets when giving options. Too risky and many times I have quietly been surprised at how much people are willing to spend for top shelf equipment enhancers.

Hell, I remember one particular repairman charging $60.00 for Mooris back in the mid to late 90's and getting it! When asked once at a tournament while doing onsite repairs, "How much for two (2)? The repairman responded without looking up from his lathe, "$120.00". The customer said, "Okay, and recondition them too". :eek:

Gene
 
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Cuedog said:
The Tiger tip was simply a suggestion. I try not to see into customer's pockets when giving options. Too risky and many times I have quietly been surprised at how much people are willing to spend for top shelf equipment enhancers.

Hell, I remember one particular repairman charging $60.00 for Mooris back in the mid to late 90's and getting it! When asked once at a tournament while doing onsite repairs, "How much for two (2)? The repairman responded without looking up from his lathe, "$120.00". The customer said, "Okay, and recondition them too". :eek:

Gene
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Sounds like the MIA kid himself. Couldn't resist.:cool:
 
Snapshot9 said:
I would like to get some cuemaker's comments on the best type of tip to use on a Break cue for the IPt tour?

I don't think that the entire tip has to be leather, but the part contacting the cueball does? Also, I don't know if they restrict phenolic ferrules?

Could a tip be done where part of the tip was phenolic with a very hard leather layer on top of it, say buffalo layer?

Or would it just be better for just a shallow buffalo tip to be put onto, say a phenolic ferrule work the best for the IPt?

Is it possible to have small leather pieces, or screens, interwoven into a phenolic resin that would meet IPT requirements?
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Since the ferrule material is not covered in the IPT rules, if a player wants a very hard break tip they could install a phenolic ferrule tip combo with a dime radius. Take the hardest leather tip they could find (Tiger's jump/break tip would certainly be unsuitable for this project, and one piece tips would likely be better than laminated tips.) and on the glue side, remove leather so that the tip contains a concave dime shape, exactly like a dime radius tip shaper. Install the leather tip on the the dime shaped phenolic tip/ferrule combo. Shape to a nickel radius with a shoulder about 1 1/2 mm thick. This would give the leather tip a fairly uniform thickness across the entire phenolic tip/ferrule.

The resulting tip would absorb less energy than a traditional leather tip made of the same type of leather, resulting in transferring more energy to the cue ball without violating the leather tip rule.
 
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