IPT DVDs

[McKinneyMiner]

Okay, without getting into the semantics of whether it is right to support Kevin Trudeau by buying DVDs off the IPT website, I have a question...

Has anyone bought the IPT DVDs from the website?

Not so much the Reyes-Sigel, Jones-Sigel ones, but rather the ones with the Hall of Famers and more obscure players...

Are they the complete matches or just highlights?

Any info would be appreciated.

 

[McKinneyMiner]

Two rails back to the top...

 

[Terry Ardeno]

Okay, without getting into the semantics of whether it is right to support Kevin Trudeau by buying DVDs off the IPT website, I have a question...

Has anyone bought the IPT DVDs from the website?

Not so much the Reyes-Sigel, Jones-Sigel ones, but rather the ones with the Hall of Famers and more obscure players...

Are they the complete matches or just highlights?

Any info would be appreciated.

MM,
About 2 months ago, I sent them an e-mail asking if the DVD's featuring Ed Kelly were still being made available. When I never got a response, I re-sent another e-mail.
Still no reply from them.

If I ever find out, I'll let you know.

 

[McKinneyMiner]

Terry...

Thanks for the response...

The Kelly matches seem to be available on their website, but I don't know if actually following through with an order will get you anything...

I would like to buy some of the Buddy Hall videos.

 

[Blackjack]

...I don't know if actually following through with an order will get you anything...

Hey Jeff - they might want to sell you some crocodile protein peptide and some discounted colonics...

You've been warned.

 

[McKinneyMiner]

I know what you are saying David...

They are incredible crooks and buyer beware to be sure...

On the flip side of that, though, is they own probably over 100 hours of an important part of pool history.

All of the great names in pool particiapated in this tournament and the cameras were rolling.

Not to mention that outside of the Accu-Stats 8-Ball Invitational this is really the only extended filmed coverage of 8-ball being played at the professional level.

As much as I hate Kevin Trudeau I wouldn't mind having a full set of those DVDs.

It's a shame not to avail ourselves of that resource as long as we get what we pay for.

 

[Still_Learning]

I bought two IPT DVDs...here is my review

Has anyone bought the IPT DVDs from the website?

Not so much the Reyes-Sigel, Jones-Sigel ones, but rather the ones with the Hall of Famers and more obscure players...

I bought the Jim Rempe/Ewa Laurance and the Francisco Bustamente/Johnny Archer DVDs. Here's my two cents.

1) Production quality is pretty good, but not up to Accu-Stats. First, there is no commentary. OTOH the other players are miked and you get to hear the occasional whispered curse word or "Why did I do that?" as players talk to themselves.

2) The camera angles are good but not great. Sometimes the camera focuses on the player more than the table.

3) The Rempe-Laurance match is a nail-biter. The Busta-Archer match is not, because Busta's in top form and Archer is having a bad day.

4) If you want to see one-time HOF pros playing well below their top speed, watch Rempe-Laurance. They make mistakes that I think embarrass them into making even more mistakes. Possibly it's money pressure, given the IPT prize fund no one knew would be so delayed.

(Side point: There's one part where Rempe is staring at this fairly easy three-balls-plus-the-eight runout, and he keeps fretting and walking around the table, and fretting and talking to himself, and this goes on for nearly two minutes--I timed it. Thirty seconds in, I was shouting at the TV: "Jimmy! *I* could have completed the runout by now! What the [heck] are you doing? Just shoot!" Anyway, after what seems like forever, he finally lines up a shot most C players would make at least half the time, and, for some reason, tries to fire it in at 9-ball-break-shot speed. Of *course* he misses, but the CB lands precisely where he wanted it to. I swear, though, if he'd just "cinched" the shot instead, he could have gotten the CB only two inches away from his perfect location and done just as well. I recognize the TV angles make tables hard to read sometimes, but man, it seems like he's freaking out over nothing. And you should hear him talking to himself: "Oh Rempe, what are you doing? I have no idea what to do here...")

My final verdict: They're worth $10 apiece, but probably not $15, and definitely not $20 apiece. As a premium member I got them for $10 and that's why I'm a premium member. I'll probably give that up after a couple more DVDs.

 

[McKinneyMiner]

Rep to you sir!

**Exactly what I was looking for**

Good to know there is no commentary as I was wondering about that.

I actually considered becoming a Premium Member, ordering a few DVDs and then giving it up like you said.

Thanks again.

 

[Terry Ardeno]

I bought the Jim Rempe/Ewa Laurance and the Francisco Bustamente/Johnny Archer DVDs. Here's my two cents.

1) Production quality is pretty good, but not up to Accu-Stats. First, there is no commentary. OTOH the other players are miked and you get to hear the occasional whispered curse word or "Why did I do that?" as players talk to themselves.

2) The camera angles are good but not great. Sometimes the camera focuses on the player more than the table.

3) The Rempe-Laurance match is a nail-biter. The Busta-Archer match is not, because Busta's in top form and Archer is having a bad day.

4) If you want to see one-time HOF pros playing well below their top speed, watch Rempe-Laurance. They make mistakes that I think embarrass them into making even more mistakes. Possibly it's money pressure, given the IPT prize fund no one knew would be so delayed.

(Side point: There's one part where Rempe is staring at this fairly easy three-balls-plus-the-eight runout, and he keeps fretting and walking around the table, and fretting and talking to himself, and this goes on for nearly two minutes--I timed it. Thirty seconds in, I was shouting at the TV: "Jimmy! *I* could have completed the runout by now! What the [heck] are you doing? Just shoot!" Anyway, after what seems like forever, he finally lines up a shot most C players would make at least half the time, and, for some reason, tries to fire it in at 9-ball-break-shot speed. Of *course* he misses, but the CB lands precisely where he wanted it to. I swear, though, if he'd just "cinched" the shot instead, he could have gotten the CB only two inches away from his perfect location and done just as well. I recognize the TV angles make tables hard to read sometimes, but man, it seems like he's freaking out over nothing. And you should hear him talking to himself: "Oh Rempe, what are you doing? I have no idea what to do here...")

My final verdict: They're worth $10 apiece, but probably not $15, and definitely not $20 apiece. As a premium member I got them for $10 and that's why I'm a premium member. I'll probably give that up after a couple more DVDs.

When did you buy your last one? Do you think they still sell them? Thanks!

 

[Terry Ardeno]

I know what you are saying David...

They are incredible crooks and buyer beware to be sure...

On the flip side of that, though, is they own probably over 100 hours of an important part of pool history.

All of the great names in pool particiapated in this tournament and the cameras were rolling.

Not to mention that outside of the Accu-Stats 8-Ball Invitational this is really the only extended filmed coverage of 8-ball being played at the professional level.

As much as I hate Kevin Trudeau I wouldn't mind having a full set of those DVDs.

It's a shame not to avail ourselves of that resource as long as we get what we pay for.

This is a great post MM. All very well reasoned.

I hear Blackjack, & I always take heed to what he says. BUT, on this situation, I have NO footage of Ed Kelly in my collection. I have stuff on players all the way back to Frank Taberski. Of the modern players, Kelly is just about the only one that I don't have footage on. Guys like him, Dallas West, etc were great players, and I'm going to have to see if I can order at least the Ed Kelly matches. I have all of the Dallas West footage that Accu-Stats sales.
But I got to do more homework before they get my credit card numbers!

 

[Secaucus Fats]

Hey Jeff - they might want to sell you some crocodile protein peptide and some discounted colonics...

You've been warned.

I tried the croc protein peptide and it definitely helped. I'm playing like a cold blooded reptile with a thick hide! And after a series of colonics everyone says I'm less full of sh*t!

Fats

 

[Still_Learning]

When did you buy your last one? Do you think they still sell them? Thanks!

I bought the two DVDs reviewed above in, I think, February? Close to then.

I remember seeing quite a few of them for sale (at $20 per) at the Super Billiards Expo. And when I go to the site to watch the archived matches, I still see the videos for sale. AFAIK, they're still available. But the only way to know for sure would be to e-mail them, I think.

By the way, I've e-mailed them a couple of times now about miscellaneous things and gotten good responses within 1-3 days. I told them about a particularly confusing piece of text on their web site--a piece that made it difficult to know what a premium membership really cost--and they wrote back to thank me for point it out, told me it was fixed, and gave me a link so I could see the fix for myself. I recognize and understand the bad blood against KT, but the ordinary folks who work the web site seem to be good people.

 

[Terry Ardeno]

I bought the two DVDs reviewed above in, I think, February? Close to then.

I remember seeing quite a few of them for sale (at $20 per) at the Super Billiards Expo. And when I go to the site to watch the archived matches, I still see the videos for sale. AFAIK, they're still available. But the only way to know for sure would be to e-mail them, I think.

By the way, I've e-mailed them a couple of times now about miscellaneous things and gotten good responses within 1-3 days. I told them about a particularly confusing piece of text on their web site--a piece that made it difficult to know what a premium membership really cost--and they wrote back to thank me for point it out, told me it was fixed, and gave me a link so I could see the fix for myself. I recognize and understand the bad blood against KT, but the ordinary folks who work the web site seem to be good people.

Thanks much for the info. Rep sent as appreciation.
I'm not a premium member w/ the IPT, so I wonder if that made any difference on the emails?
I'll try again when I log off here later.
Thanks again.