IPT Players Cues Survey

[rackmsuckr]

This reply is from Wayne Catledge and Miyuki Sakai.

Wayne plays with a Nitti cue, 58 inches, 19 ounces with water buffalo tip on a 314 predator shaft trimmed to about 12.5mm.

Miyki plays with a Gina cue, 58 inches, 19.5 ounces with Mori III tip on a 314 predator shaft about 12.6mm.

 

[DaveK]

I guess Bernie didn't know it was me..

hello, i'm Bernie Friend ...

... a refreshing rubbing alcohol based product in tissue form, that i use on my face, then on my shaft.

Priceless ! I'm in tears Thank you very much Linda, you've gone above and beyond with this thread !

Dave

 

[rackmsuckr]

I am using a Predator Shaft with Paul Drexler butt.
and I am using different cases.

Thanks.

Sincerely yours,

Marlon R. Manalo

 

[rackmsuckr]

This is from Mike Cernero, no relation to Bernie
He included pictures which I am trying to copy here. There was one as an .art which I could not upload, so if you want a picture of the Bender, pm me and I will copy the email to you (without the address).

Hello Linda,,

Linda I'm currently playing with a "95 Mike Bender". I recently sent this cue to Mike for a new textured black leather rewrap & finish. Mike Bender surprised me & included a new 4+oz quality shaft (free of charge). Mike made me a brand new shaft for free. The cue is a point blank full splice 5 long ebony pointer w/no veneers into a curly maple forearm with Mike's famous railroad style sterling silver rings into black phenolic @ all 5 positions & an ebony butt sleeve. Plain & elegant. Let me see if I can find a picture for you Linda.


58" L (29 + 29)
19oz + -
3 4+oz ivory pointed shafts ranging from 12.5 to 13mm.
W2W flatface joint using a 3/8x14 Platinum pin
Orig Bender Phenolic protectors w/white distinguishable shaft



MIKE BENDER Cues
HC 60 PO BOX 3890
DELTA JUNCTION, ALASKA 99737
907-895-4725
907) 895-1062


Linda I own 6 all very good playing cues + a breakjump
3 are all orig early to mid+ 80s R series full splice Schons (classic 4 ebony points/4 veneers/maple dash rings etc).
1 cue is a 2005 Runde full splice cue (very similar to the Bender except 4 ebony points w/ivory joint & smooth black leather wrap with 2 4+oz ivory pointed shafts, W2W 3/8x10 flatface joint with custom ebony/ivory protectors w/distinguishable shaft (nice cue, again plain & elegant looking). Let me see if I can find a pic of the 2005 Runde.


(FOR SALE)
$1000 firm
2005 hand made Runde
58" 19oz 2 shafts ivory ferrules & joint leather wrap custom protectors
3/8x10 W2W
13mm & slightly under 13mm




The 6th cue is a beat up dinged, chipped, splintered butt end sneaky pete w/1 shaft that I played with for years. I have won more tournaments than I can remember with this old nasty looking beat up sneaky pete. I have beaten US Open Champions using this beat up cheap I don't even never did know who the cue maker was. Looks to be an old inexpensive Meucci sneaky pete with a slightly warped but good shaft. Light weight, great balance, I went thru maybe 3 if not more ferrules. I used the cue to play & break and carried it around in a cheap beat up vinyl case. I had left this cue and case in the hot/humid NJ summer & cold winter, I have used this cue as a hammer. a poker, a fly swatter, a tool to tell the loud ass noisy upstairs neighbors to keep quiet, I used the shaft as a way of chasing a very horny caged male rabbit to stop humping the poor female rabbit (man a rabbit does it 10,000 miles an hour and can keep going hour after hour), I felt so bad for the female rabbit that I CHIPPED a hole in the shaft of this cue by using the shaft to nudge the male rabbit off the female thru the holes of a steel cage.... AND I WOULD NOT GIVE THIS CUE UP AT ALL,,,, I CAN POSSIBLY BE PLAYING THE IPT WITH THIS CUE. Linda I can play just as well if not even better with this old nasty beat up sneaky pete.. If Kevin seen me playing with this cue he may feel bad for me and ask me if i need money for a new cue... The cue plays great Linda. Hey Linda A good player can play with any cue as long as the cue has a good weight, balance, tip and plays solid. I have played some of my very best pool using a house cue off the wall. I owned a level 4 gorgeous G Boti that would easily fetch over 10K today, the cue was one of the nicest looking Gus cues,,,, Linda I sold that cue (Gus was still alive) for 800, 400 less than I paid for it BECAUSE I could not play well with it, A gorgeous G Boti loaded up with ivory inlaids,,, the cue was 59" too long and 20+oz's (many Gus cues are 59" 20+ oz) and WAS too damn back heavy,, the cue had a rearward balance and back heavy. So I sold the cue back to Tony Catucci. I owned a G Balabuska that I sold in 1977 for 175 bucks.. Thats all a plain 4point 4veneer Buska went for back then.. I owned an outrageous simply gorgeous beautiful eye catching early Joey Gold Cognoscenti.. I never owned a cue that had gotten so much attention where ever I went. Women sitting at a bar who had absolutely nothing at all to do with pool, would ask me from their seats at the bar all the way across the rail into the playing area,,, SAY oh what a beautiful "POOL STICK"... Linda I had so many small time collectors ask me if I wanted to sell them the cue. I had picked this Cog up in a 4 cue deal, I had never heard of a Cognoscenti cue at the time (early 90s) and either did most players at the time, I had NO idea what the cue was worth BUT I knew it was a special cue... This one kid who wasn't a real player OR collector kept bugging me and asking if I would sell him the cue... I really didn't want to sell it and I did not need the money... The kid kept bugging me,,, so one day I said 1800 figuring the cue had to be worth that much and never expecting this kid to say yes and spending 1800 on a pool cue from a cue maker who WE both knew nothing about. It was a beautiful cue... The kid said OK and ran out the door. He came back within 1/2hr holding 18 100 dollar bills.... I was Caught and had to sell the cue... I didn't want to look like an ass after telling the kid 1800 and him actually coming back fast with the 1800.... Last yr I called Joey Gold up.. Joey remembered making that cue. It was an early Cog that used a brn looking collar material that was used for the Tiles on the Space Shuttle... Thats what made this cue so unique, this brown checkered looking material that no one ever seen used for a pool cue... Joey told me he could not duplicate that cue today because he could no longer get his hands on that material. Joey said that material was used for the Tiles on the Space Shuttle and the manufacture had sold the company to another manufacture and he could no longer buy that material from the new manuf... Joey told me that cue was worth over 5000 today and couldn't be duplicated... BEST LOOKING cue we ALL ever seen.. I really didn't want to sell that cue (1995), I knew I had made a mistake..

Linda those 3 old orig mid 80s Schons I own.. You don't get any better playing cues... Those early orig Schons were no different from a G Boti... Gus had actually machined some of those parts and had supplied Bob Runde (orig Schon) with some of the BLANKS.... Many do not know this,,,, I own 3 of these old orig Schons... 1 of those cues has the perfect balance for me and light weight... That cue plays dynamite for me. I MAY be playing the IPT with one of the orig Schons I own...

Linda why are you asking these questions anyway? Are these questions for the IPT??? If so please,,,,, say I'm playing the IPT with the Mike Bender cue OK????


Regards,
Mike Cernero


PS: anyone looking to split the cost of a suite on or off site from check in 7/20 to late night 7/30?

 

[rackmsuckr]

Hello Linda,

Here is the info you requested:

Break Cue - Sledgehammer Elite, Leather tip, 18oz
Playing Cue - Predator 2, Z shaft

Frank Alvarez III

 

[Captain Dan]

Wow, nice initial response.

Thanks all, especially Linda. Keep it up.

I also got some cue types off the links in Colins website and they are listed below. Also, I forgot about shaft type , but many are including this anyway, so that will be in the final breakdown. At the moment, Muecci's in the lead!

Will be out from the next 2 nights (playing ), so will do an initial breakdown figure on Sunday night.

Daniel

Johnny Archer -Scorpion
Karen Corr -Falcon
Allison Fisher -Cuetec
Gerda Hofstatter -Predator
Jim Rempe -Muecci
Earl Strickland -Cuetec

 

[rackmsuckr]

Hello Linda,

My custom cues are made by a french cuemaker Thierry Chevron(TC cues),it's a 13 milimeter tip , 19 onces and normal length.

Best regards,

Vincent Facquet

 

[rackmsuckr]

Ernesto Dominguez: Playing cue: Tad Custom Cue with
big pin, steel joint, 20oz
Break cue: Jerry McWorter and Andrew Park custom cues
Sniper tips, porper case

 

[rackmsuckr]

Hi Linda,

My playing cue stick is a "JPeachhauer"
19.5 oz --- 58 inch --- 12.5 mm
The leather tips I use are made by "Tiger Products"

My break cue is a "Dennis Searing"
20.5 oz --- 59 inch --- 13.25 mm

My case is a "Jack Justis"
Black all leather with snake skin design on the pockets with a nice Latin flare to it with
my nick name is on it "John ( The Bull ) Di Toro"

 

[rackmsuckr]

My playing Cue is a Widowmaker 20 oz, 12.8 mm, by Bert Kinister. Break Cue is a Sledgehammer 18.5 oz. Cue Case is an Instroke Case.


Regards,

Roland Acosta

 

[rackmsuckr]

I use a predator cue, 19 ounces and 13´´ tip.

Rafael González

 

[rackmsuckr]

I play with Cognoscenti 18 Oz and with Predator break 2, 19 Oz.
I use predator cases.

Best Wishes
Fabio Petroni

 

[delarge]

nice thread!!! great job linda!

At the moment, Muecci's in the lead!

i guess you can look at it however you want, but shaft is so much more important in the hit than anything. looks like predators are a heavy favorite to me. clearly 314 shafts are making these players more accurate or this many good players, who have a tremendous amount of sensitivity, would not be using them. this is especially true when you consider 100% of these players grew up using conventional shafts. to make the transition is a huge endeavor, they just wouldn't do it if there wasn't a tremendous amount of benefit associated with the switch to 314. what i mean is, many players simply wont make the switch because of the human characteristic of being "set in ones ways" or because they don't want to feel uncomfortable with their equipment for 2 or 3 months (can't afford it). my point is, imagine how many players would use 314's if they DIDN'T grow up using conventional shafts.

last time i ran into john schmidt he was using a bobby hunter cue and i believe he uses rick howard's mace break jump, but not sure, and i don't know the weights.

 

[delarge]

forgot...

i'm surprised to see how light the players playing cues are nowadays. many between 18 and 19. anybody have any comment as to why this is the case? seems like a few years ago the average was closer to 19 or 19.5 to me.

 

[jingle]

907) 895-1062


I used the cue to play & break and carried it around in a cheap beat up vinyl case. I had left this cue and case in the hot/humid NJ summer & cold winter, I have used this cue as a hammer. a poker, a fly swatter, a tool to tell the loud ass noisy upstairs neighbors to keep quiet, I used the shaft as a way of chasing a very horny caged male rabbit to stop humping the poor female rabbit (man a rabbit does it 10,000 miles an hour and can keep going hour after hour), I felt so bad for the female rabbit that I CHIPPED a hole in the shaft of this cue by using the shaft to nudge the male rabbit off the female thru the holes of a steel cage.... AND I WOULD NOT GIVE THIS CUE UP AT ALL,,,, I CAN POSSIBLY BE PLAYING THE IPT WITH THIS CUE.

This excerpt might be the best thing I've ever read on this forum. If I ever run into this guy, his drinks are on me.

 

[rackmsuckr]

Hello Linda,

i am playing a Jacoby cue with 19 Oz. an I use a Longoni cue case.

Best regards

Stefan Santl

 

[8-ball bernie]

let me please just say, the e-mail i recieved basically said "the forum wants to know every little detail about your cue, case and accessoreies, thus i went to town with my origional reply, for which now i see, looks quite long and foolish, so if i could do my reply over it would look like this:

i play with a Mali 18oz break cue and a Mali 16.5 oz playing cue, both cues feature a 13 mm triangle tip, thank you, Bernie Friend ipt player.

 

[rackmsuckr]

let me please just say, the e-mail i recieved basically said "the forum wants to know every little detail about your cue, case and accessoreies, thus i went to town with my origional reply, for which now i see, looks quite long and foolish, so if i could do my reply over it would look like this:

i play with a Mali 18oz break cue and a Mali 16.5 oz playing cue, both cues feature a 13 mm triangle tip, thank you, Bernie Friend ipt player.

Bernie,

This is one instance where the more the better is encouraged - you did just fine.

 

[rackmsuckr]

Nick Varner Limited Edition
18.75 oz 13mm 57"
Nick Varner Pro Case
3 x 5

Guess who? Nick Varner, lol.

 

[PoolSleuth]

This has been a very interesting thread, and I like JAM'S Photo of her Keith...

Interesting to see what the Best Pool Players in the World of Pool Play with.