Irving Kaye bar tables

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I have decided to get a cheap bar table for home play and found a decent looking Irving Kaye table (Silver Shadow model) on craigslist for a good price. I did some research and found that some owners have been replacing the rails because some of these tables have a K66 rail profile insead of K55, because Irving Kaye tables use an oversized cueball.

My questions are

1- Will the rail profile mess with the play of the table enough that I should just look for a different table? I am not planning on replacing rails or rubber so what I get is what I get. This is just a practice table to stick in the apartment until I buy a house and get a 9 footer.

2- Can the coin op feature be disabled so the balls just come out like a non coin-op table?

2- Will I have any issues using a regular sized cueball with this table?

4- Does anyone here own an Irving Kaye or this specific model who can give me some feedback on whether this is a good purchase? I've read that they are well-constructed tables. Just want to know if owners are happy with the table and how much work has to go in to them to get them in good playing condition.

5- If you don't recommend this, what table do you recommend? A Diamond is out of my budget at this point.

Thanks,
Ian

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One sign of a good coin operated pool tables is are they still being made today? Anse is they went out of business years ago. K55 cushions have nothing to do with the size of the cue ball since that's only 1 ball out of 16 on the table. Play on the table before you buy it, if you like how it plays then it passes your playability test. If you can't tell how good it plays, or don't play, then your skill level is not high enough to worry about buying a bad table. So then it all breaks down to what the sale price e of the table is, because that's one of the factors needed to determine if this is a good deal or not, and since e I don't K own the answer to that question....I can't comment.;)
 
I'll make it simple for you, seeing how you're not going to get any intelligent answers from any of these AZB experts that just love to think they know what they're talking about when it comes to myself or this industry, but only show up in a thread that they think I'm going down in flames in:rolleyes: The Irving K was one of the most unique designed coin operated pool tables ever built. The top rail caps were designed to be removed by taking out the plugged sight and removing the 18 bolts holding the rails down, but most everyone that worked on them never knew that, so when bolting the cushion blocks back on no one ever took the time to loosen the top rails and line the cushion blocks up with the Formica finish on the top rails. They didn't go out of business because they didn't build a quality table, they went out of business because of lack of sales since most of the coin op pool tables in this country were being bought by vending companies, being largely Valley and Dynamo.

To make the balls run through the table on free play, all you have to do is remove the ball gate which traps the balls for the coin operation, 2 shouldered bolts. Keep the oversized cue ball if it has one, best cue ball in the world to practice your draw stroke with because you'll need a good stroke to draw that cue ball back, but get good at that, and you'll never have a problem drawing a red circle or poke a dot cue ball anywhere on table.

So, depending on price once again, yes it's a good table to buy. But, since it's value as a coin operated pool table no longer has any value, I wouldn't pay more than $3-500 tops.
 
Bring it on trolls, which one of you is going to try and derail this thread with some BS' about you having rights to know what the hell I'm up to?...bring it on...and you'll see exactly why AZB is going down the drain!!!

Glen
 
I played on a lot of those up and down the East Coast in the 60's when I was in the Navy. Very seldom saw one in a Bar that had bad rolls on it. Unlike the Valleys in the Bars today. Get used to the big cue ball and shooting with a regular one is like shooting Ducks on a Pond. I found a number of them on line, lowest price $750.00. Sounds like a good deal to me, if under that.
 
realkingcobra said:
I'll make it simple for you, seeing how you're not going to get any intelligent answers from any of these AZB experts that just love to think they know what they're talking about when it comes to myself or this industry, but only show up in a thread that they think I'm going down in flames in:rolleyes:

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