Is billiards the toughest sport?
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SJDinPHX said:
Well i post on the biggest golf site too. After my back went out, it will be some time before I can play.
Pool is less physically demanding and I can occasionally play.
BTW....
Go carry your bag 18 holes on a hilly course in 100+ degree heat with the humidity level way up.
Then come tell me that pool is physically tougher!!!!!!!!!!
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belmicah said:
I don't see why that should determine in which sport it is tougher to become a great player. Or why pool's mental toughness requirement is something qualitatively different than many other sports.
I think with sports that are more well-known and lucrative, it seems a reasonable assumption that it is tougher to make it to the highest levels simply because of greater competition.
BPG24 said:
Swinging a club is physically tougher? By what 20 more calories burned? Swing a cue...swing a club, not much difference. If you have a physical handicap maybe.
Yes there are repeatable shots in Golf. You groove the swing to be repeatable and change the club to give you repeatable results. If you can't achieve this it must be why you think its harder.
-The distance on ball placement is the toughest aspect of Golf.
-Billiards deals with much easier distances.
-In Golf you find the line and the appropriate swing and your there in the position zone. Fractions of an inch determine the amount of feet left or right of the desired line.
-In Billiards when a round sphere touches a round sphere that equalizes the distance factor. Again because fractions of an inch determine if you are left or right of the desired line.
By the way I have played on pool tables with huge slopes!!!
The toughest part of Golf is the $$$ you pay to get in regular play!!
BPG24 said:
im trying to imagine a round of golf where your opponent is allowed to play safe by hitting your ball into a tree well and you have to make a 4 tree kick shot to get out of jail. if you miss the green you opponent gets ball in hand on the next stroke.
Whoops caught a snag!
still be out there every day. you missed my point. Peace brother !!!!
P.S. Your best game is great avatars.
I did not say golf was not more physically demanding. I had to give it up after a triple cervical fusion and two torn rotor cuffs. Otherwise I wouldBPG24 said:
still be out there every day. you missed my point. Peace brother !!!!
P.S. Your best game is great avatars.
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RunoutalloverU said:
Not so. I asked a guy in Hawaii that was surfing the biggest waves they had on the North Shore in 30 years. How do you do it? It's gotta be tough?
He said, "Theres nothing to it!" He had the be a pro. About 8,000 people on the shore line watching four people surf. It's easy!
Masayoshi said:im trying to imagine a round of golf where your opponent is allowed to play safe by hitting your ball into a tree well and you have to make a 4 tree kick shot to get out of jail. if you miss the green you opponent gets ball in hand on the next stroke.
That is a Classic! Well put, rep to you!
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to play golf on the pga tour is not harder or easier than playing pool like say myself.if you took someone who has never played golf and they wanted to be on the pga tour they would be in for about a 10 year learning process and that would be if they had the right opportunities and talent.like junior golf competition,high school and college competition.swing coach ,equipment ,strength,agility,and nerves of steel under pressure.desire ,money to get by on until pro,etc. the same with pool it would be a 10 year learning curve and if everything was given to the player to succeed it still comes down to raw talent. in golf or pool thousands are given every chance to succeed at the highest level but only a few ever are good enough. by the way ive played golf in high school and college and have shot ten under 62 twice with witnessess as my low rounds and have recorded a hundred or so rounds in the sixties with witnessess .so when i say golf is not easier or harder to play very well ,i feel i know what im talking about. in closing to play pool like johnny archer or play golf like say phil mickelson takes about the same time ,experience and talent imho.take care john schmidt
to play golf on the pga tour is not harder or easier than playing pool like say myself.if you took someone who has never played golf and they wanted to be on the pga tour they would be in for about a 10 year learning process and that would be if they had the right opportunities and talent.like junior golf competition,high school and college competition.swing coach ,equipment ,strength,agility,and nerves of steel under pressure.desire ,money to get by on until pro,etc. the same with pool it would be a 10 year learning curve and if everything was given to the player to succeed it still comes down to raw talent. in golf or pool thousands are given every chance to succeed at the highest level but only a few ever are good enough. by the way ive played golf in high school and college and have shot ten under 62 twice with witnessess as my low rounds and have recorded a hundred or so rounds in the sixties with witnessess .so when i say golf is not easier or harder to play very well ,i feel i know what im talking about. in closing to play pool like johnny archer or play golf like say phil mickelson takes about the same time ,experience and talent imho.take care john schmidt
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you got that right shermcuesmith said:
renard said:
Yes, I agree that the mental aspect is different from other sports, but I'm not convinced that it makes it tougher to become a great player. You mentioned the need for unconscious, split-second reactions in other sports -- to hone those skills requires an extraordinary amount of training as well as inborn talent.
I would argue that simply because of the amount of competition, it seems that it is even more difficult to reach the highest levels in the major sports. To argue otherwise I think would require a greater degree of luck in those sports, otherwise it's just a different skill set.
BPG24
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renard said:Swinging a club is physically tougher? By what 20 more calories burned? Swing a cue...swing a club, not much difference. If you have a physical handicap maybe.
Yes there are repeatable shots in Golf. You groove the swing to be repeatable and change the club to give you repeatable results. If you can't achieve this it must be why you think its harder.
-The distance on ball placement is the toughest aspect of Golf.
-Billiards deals with much easier distances.
-In Golf you find the line and the appropriate swing and your there in the position zone. Fractions of an inch determine the amount of feet left or right of the desired line.
-In Billiards when a round sphere touches a round sphere that equalizes the distance factor. Again because fractions of an inch determine if you are left or right of the desired line.
By the way I have played on pool tables with huge slopes!!!
The toughest part of Golf is the $$$ you pay to get in regular play!!
I am convinced that you can't break 80 in golf.
You don't seem to understand what it takes physically to play golf at a high level. What you are talking about is low level golf. You are basically describing golf as a hobby VS pool at the highest level.
In billiards you only move your arm and maybe your wrist.
golf requires consistent movement of all your core muscles, both arms, both wrists, both hands, all while keeping your legs, feet, and head still and keeping your spine and shoulders upright.
Nothing in pool compares to that.
Again have you ever walked 18 holes in 100 degree temperature with the humidity level way up, and had to hit every shot like I just described?
Ohhh, and you have to do that 4 days in a row.
My handicap is 6... I can't play scratch golf anymore. too many back problems
BPG24
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Another thing you are missing is pre shot routines and visualizations.
Similar pre shot routines in golf and pool. visualizations are tougher and much more complicated in golf. mainly due to wind, rain, side hill lies, up and down hill lies, heavy grass, thin grass, dirt, sand, tree bark and using 14 different clubs each with endless possibilities. Plus working the ball either direction while controlling spin rates and trajectory.
Again not close.
Similar pre shot routines in golf and pool. visualizations are tougher and much more complicated in golf. mainly due to wind, rain, side hill lies, up and down hill lies, heavy grass, thin grass, dirt, sand, tree bark and using 14 different clubs each with endless possibilities. Plus working the ball either direction while controlling spin rates and trajectory.
Again not close.