Is it a legal bank shot when...

[Patrick Johnson]

...if you play a ball off the point of the side pocket to go into the farther corner on that side, is that a bank shot?

Not an adjacent rail... I'm gonna rule for the shooter (if he called a bank). How would you shoot that?

pj
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[Bob Jewett]

Not an adjacent rail... I'm gonna rule for the shooter (if he called a bank). How would you shoot that?

Playing off the point to slide down the side rail is a standard advanced shot. I think there's a video of Efren getting a hit that way and maybe making the ball. From the spot, shoot at the near side point and adjust the "fullness" until you get the right action. The cue ball has to be rolling as the follow will make it return to the cushion.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Playing off the point to slide down the side rail is a standard advanced shot. I think there's a video of Efren getting a hit that way and maybe making the ball. From the spot, shoot at the near side point and adjust the "fullness" until you get the right action. The cue ball has to be rolling as the follow will make it return to the cushion.

I've seen that shot by Efren - didn't he shoot from about straight across?

pj
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[straightline]

There you go w the pig latin again.,

I'm toying (half assing) with the idea of using foreign accents, pronunciations, rhythms, and phrasings to speak English. It has to sound unintelligible like the original language though.

 

[jayman]

It's called a short rail. not a bank.

 

[Magictrat007]

If we are paying by the rail, I’m not giving you anything

 

[Bob Jewett]

I've seen that shot by Efren - didn't he shoot from about straight across? ...

He might have. I remember another by Cole Dickson that was about 45.

 

[freds]

An extreme case is where you play a long bank near a side rail and the object ball nicks the point of the side rail before the side pocket, and then by a small miracle goes into the corner. The rule quoted above does not allow that as an incidental rail on a technicality -- that's a different "rail section".

Yes, that WPA rule is clear; but I believe for most bank pool players - and at Derby City? - both sections of the long rail are considered adjacent; so that shot is good. It doesn't happen often, but it happens. More likely the worse you hit the bank, which is fun. (If you're the person shooting.)

 

[NobodySpecial]

An extreme case is where you play a long bank near a side rail and the object ball nicks the point of the side rail before the side pocket, and then by a small miracle goes into the corner. The rule quoted above does not allow that as an incidental rail on a technicality -- that's a different "rail section".

Which leads to the question, if you play a ball off the point of the side pocket to go into the farther corner on that side, is that a bank shot?

There are some other improbable bank shots for which the rule is unclear.

When Truman Hogue was running the DCC banks ring games, he always made a point to say that the shot you describe does not count as a bank.

 

[Bob Jewett]

When Truman Hogue was running the DCC banks ring games, he always made a point to say that the shot you describe does not count as a bank.

Apart from tradition, do you feel that the shot off the point of the side pocket to the farther corner on that side should count as a bank? I think everyone agrees that off the point to a pocket on the other side of the table is good.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Apart from tradition, do you feel that the shot off the point of the side pocket to the farther corner on that side should count as a bank?

I do - it checks the technical boxes and it’s not a gimme.

pj
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[straightline]

I do - it checks the technical boxes and it’s not a gimme.

pj
chgo

Any titty bank then. How about jumping a ball onto the rail to roll off and into pocket?

 

[straightline]

And by the same token, the cueball going 90 degrees into a pocket is not a scratch?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Any titty bank then. How about jumping a ball onto the rail to roll off and into pocket?

Nope. Do you think they’re equivalent somehow?

And by the same token, the cueball going 90 degrees into a pocket is not a scratch?

Wut?

pj
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[straightline]

Nope. Do you think they’re equivalent somehow?


Wut?

pj
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If the object ball going off the side tit and into a corner is not a bank, then in banks losing the CB in the same fashion should not be a foul. And I think any titty bank is a bank and a ball that climbs the rail, returns to the surface to drop in a pocket on the other side could be allowed as a bank.