Is it easier/is it possible to re-thread a shaft, or is it easier to replace a joint pin in a butt?

Flakeandrun said:
I think he is just detailing what can be done with regard to both ideas. Not suggesting one over the other. I read it as he was suggesting the same as you to...

Which is what I have asked cue guy to do for me :)

Again, thanks for the help here guys. I am going to watch him work it out, as I find it really interesting.

Edit: I think I actually understand your point now, just re-threading the existing joint of the shaft? I am not sure as these particular shafts have an insert (Which is carbon or plastic? it's black that's all I know) for the thread, which maybe needs to be replaced and is difficult to simply re-thread? Maybe it is removed and replaced with wood section?

I will see what cue guy suggests and update here. Either way, I will be adjusting the shafts and not the butt. I'll post some info/pics on it when I get back from work.
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All you have to do is run a .308 reamer into the existing hole, and run a 3/8-10 tap through it. If your local guy has a 3/8-10 Modified tap, even better

You just need to take off a few thousandths with the reamer and you're set.

It should take 5 minutes tops, no changes to the butt at all. No drilling, no boring, no tenons
 
Interesting. He assumed I wanted it back post-haste hence why he suggested amending the butt joint pin. He said he needed to pick up a tool in order to amend the shafts, but needs a day or two to get it. His workshop area is in the local store, so I will watch his process. I am really curious how it all works.
 
j2pac said:
I believe they are generally plugged and retapped.
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Dave38 said:
It involves drilling/boring the old threads out and boring to a specific dia. that then, a pre-made plug of what ever material the repair guy wants to use gets inserted with epoxy, and once the epoxy is dried, that than gets bored and tapped for the joint pin to fit into.
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This is what I thought with a plain wood thread, figuring this would cause issues in retapping through the slightly dissimilar thread. So in this case the existing inserts are simply bored out?
 
straightline said:
This is what I thought with a plain wood thread, figuring this would cause issues in retapping through the slightly dissimilar thread. So in this case the existing inserts are simply bored out?
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A great deal of the repair/retrofit, depends on what thread/pin you currently have, and what thread/pin you are planning on transitioning to.
 
ideologist said:
All you have to do is run a .308 reamer into the existing hole, and run a 3/8-10 tap through it. If your local guy has a 3/8-10 Modified tap, even better

You just need to take off a few thousandths with the reamer and you're set.

It should take 5 minutes tops, no changes to the butt at all. No drilling, no boring, no tenons
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Isn't there a good chance just the .308 reamer would do it without having a modified tap?
 
I tend to recommend replacing the threads in the shaft, as it's a much easier job and less risk. But if the cue has some sort of bastard pin, you're definently better off just swapping the pin to a more standard pin.
 
ideologist said:
All you have to do is run a .308 reamer into the existing hole, and run a 3/8-10 tap through it. If your local guy has a 3/8-10 Modified tap, even better
You just need to take off a few thousandths with the reamer and you're set.
It should take 5 minutes tops, no changes to the butt at all. No drilling, no boring, no tenons
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This.
Also, a tiny boring bar will work to open up the ID to the proper size.
 
So, the shafts have been amended and I will try them later. I didn't get a chance to watch him do it sadly as work has been a bit nuts. This is a bit of a strange request, but how much would you pay for such an alteration on two shafts? After a short back and forth about their completion, I got this message...

"You can try it tomorrow, make sure it's okay and you can determine the cost"

One part of being here, is you are often subject to this kind of situation. I don't want to undervalue, as he went out of his way to help me, but I also have literally no idea of value of such work. Often, when I offer him money for fixing other bits, he will decline anyway. When I change tips, he is happy to let me use his equipment and do it myself, or show me things I want to know how to do (like when he reconditioned my shafts he let me watch and try for myself). Basically, I don't want to offer him an amount that would offend.

I have no doubt he will have done a stellar job. He's an enthusiastic lover of the game, and takes pride in things he does. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Prices for this job will vary quite a bit depending on the area, the person doing it, and the amount of work involved.
Simply adding an insert is very quick and easy, if it has to be bored and plugged it takes a little longer. For shaft thread changes I've seen prices from $30 to $75 and for news pins, a bit more.
 
Thanks, I'll aim higher at the 100$ mark to start with then, as there is always a 'back and forth' about pricing anything here... social customs and all that... Even if I said a stupidly low price, he would say it's too much and then I'm supposed to say 'no, no, you take it please' a few times, and then eventually graciously accept his reduction (and if I said some jerk low price to begin with he'd hold some kind of personal vendetta lol It's just how these things work here).

Again, appreciate all the help on this thread from you guys :)
 
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