Is there something about old vs. new version of 860HR?

[DogsPlayingPool]

I'm almost positive I read something about Simonis having an new version of this cloth and that it is preferred over the old version but I can't remember the particulars. As a matter of fact, maybe it relates to the standard 860.

I looked and looked for the thread but couldn't find it. It was probably discussed in a thread on a somewhat different topic. I'd really like to know, if I'm in the market to put HR on a table if this is something I need to know about and, if so, what are the differences between the old and new material?

Thanks so much for the help.

DPP

 

[dkindig]

If I recall correctly from my reading, the difference was the addition of UV inhibitors to reduce fading from sunlight. That's the only difference I'm aware of between old 860HR and new 860HR.

If you're talking the difference between 860 and 860HR, I think the primary ones are that 860HR is a 70% wool/30% nylon blend like 760 but has a higher thread count like 860 along with a new shearing process for the playing side...

 

[tjlmbklr]

I believe it has a higher or is it lower wool content.

 

[Dartman]

If I recall correctly from my reading, the difference was the addition of UV inhibitors to reduce fading from sunlight. That's the only difference I'm aware of between old 860HR and new 860HR.

If you're talking the difference between 860 and 860HR, I think the primary ones are that 860HR is a 70% wool/30% nylon blend like 760 but has a higher thread count like 860 along with a new shearing process for the playing side...

On the money.
It's actually 71/29 but who's counting 1%

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

So, if the table is not going to see sunlight this is a non-issue, correct? My table will be in the garage with no direct sunlight.

 

[Dartman]

So, if the table is not going to see sunlight this is a non-issue, correct? My table will be in the garage with no direct sunlight.

No worries. Even if sunlight was a problem that's why they make blinds and shades.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

Well, if there is no other improvement besides the UV protection with the new version, i.e. more durable, less prone to burns or loss of speed over time etc., then I supposee it is not something I need to worry about.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is the HR plays a tad faster than the 860. I want the cloth to play well for 14.1 and one-hole, but still need it to play well for rotation games. My understanding is the HR is the new hot ticket so to speak.

I really appreciate the feedback guys!

 

[Dartman]

Well, if there is no other improvement besides the UV protection with the new version, i.e. more durable, less prone to burns or loss of speed over time etc., then I supposee it is not something I need to worry about.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is the HR plays a tad faster than the 860. I want the cloth to play well for 14.1 and one-hole, but still need it to play well for rotation games. My understanding is the HR is the new hot ticket so to speak.

I really appreciate the feedback guys!

There have been plenty of posts around the neighborhood citing high satisfaction with HR.
Your assumptions above are correct however you will still get ball marks/burns to some degree.

IMO people generally tend to forget there's a big difference on how cloth holds up between a pool room/bar
and a home table. Home owners typically take much better care of the equipment and have complete control
over bangers, amount of play, drink spillers and ash droppers.

 

[DogsPlayingPool]

There have been plenty of posts around the neighborhood citing high satisfaction with HR.
Your assumptions above are correct however you will still get ball marks/burns to some degree.

IMO people generally tend to forget there's a big difference on how cloth holds up between a pool room/bar
and a home table. Home owners typically take much better care of the equipment and have complete control
over bangers, amount of play, drink spillers and ash droppers.

This is very true. For example, I was reading a thread recently about using rack cloth. This got me thinking that it's likely a bad habit to rack the balls at the foot rail and then slide them into position at the foot spot. It is probably a better procedure to place the triangle into position first and then rack the balls. This would eliminate much of the cloth wear from sliding the balls from the rail to the string with every rack. This might be especially helpful for straight pool.