Is this Rich Q cue stick rare?

Paul_#_

Paul_#_

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Seller claims its rare---seems old to me. Pick up only near Binghamton NY. $100
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I have two just like it, one in that exact green and another in a sort of orange/red ring color, did not pay more than $30 for either.

Is that better?
 
Paul_#_ said:
I think its great. It shows the value of AZBilliards in ridding players of delusions. It sure is disappointing, though.
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I would offer them $50, there are not a lot of folks clamoring for Rich-Q's

A lot of folks confuse mass-produced Rich-q's with the custom cues made by Abe Rich in Florida when they're trying to figure out rarity and price.

What can be even more confusing is I have seen Abe cues with a similar ring patteren but way way higher quality wood used.
 
yes, they are rare, as they were lousy cues and few that played bought them.

even the original ones had very few that had high praise for them. imop.

in those days people that played bought balabuska, or palmer and paradice cues or the old brunswick.
farther west they used rambow.
there were some others that made good cues but not so popular with good players.
and of course some great cues out west. but i am talking back in the 1960,s

although someone will post about some great maker that was renowned.
 
maha said:
in those days people that played bought balabuska, palmer, and paradise cues or the old brunswick.
In the Midwest they used rambows and on the West coast Martin's.
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Fixed it for you.

Although Rambow's were held in the highest regard all up and down the East Coast too
 
okay with the martins.
i gave dibs to the west coast as i was talking east coast. in the 70's and a little later a whole slew of top now famous makers came to being.
 
I dunno, I would give over $50.
It has a nice vintage look to it.
No, not a Balabushka, but for $50 bucks or so you could enjoy it some.

Will Prout
 
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Just for a second, or two, let's use the thinking part of our brains. Okay? Ready?

The seller says the cue is "rare", but will let go of his prize for $100.00.
Based upon this alone information alone, how "rare" do you think it could be?

Did you ask the Seller how many more of these cues he had, and what discount could you expect if purchasing multiple units?

Time's up. Does any of the above produce the slightest spark of ideation?

My suspicion is that the LSU Frat Boys are up late again, but just in case not, please provide us with the following statistical data for research purposes:
Age. Zodiac Sign? Highest Grade Attended? Highest Grade Completed? Where? Favorite Subject in School? Do you wear hats indoors? Thank you for your cooperation.
 
The cue looks to be in excellent condition. The label has stayed intact for 50 or 60 years. A great player used a cue just like this where I worked in 1971. If this cue could work as well as his did it would be worth $1000.
 
Another consideration is the wood itself. A lot of Brazilian Rosewood was used years ago. One of my nicest builds is a reconstructed Rich cue. Beautiful figure that comes to life when wood is turned down. Hard to tell by the picture. Butt may be solid rosewood.
 
First of all, the cue is most probably 1960s into early 1970s era Rich cue. Secondly, it appears to be in really decent shape for the age of the cue. The cue has a fair amount of decorative plastic butt sleeve work - which this era cue collector would find appealing ( think Doc Frye cues, Karl Meyer cues).
It is not a "rare" cue. The cue was made to appeal to a level of player below the high end custom ( GB, Rambow, Martin, etc.) and production level( Palmer, Paradise) purchase. The cue's appeal was to the player who had advanced beyond a house cue and was playing at a level and price point towards an early entrance into more serious pool.
A $100 price tag is very reasonable on this cue. Cleaned up to the max, without a full refinish, it would fetch $100 easily on the public internet auction markets. Anyone with an interest in 1960's era cues as a collection goal would want to add a Rich cue like this one- they were a part of the pool scene, and this cue would fit into a general 60's early to mid 70's era cue collection quite nicely.
The wood is very possibly Brazilian Rosewood - which from the "rare" concept, you won't find it today in newer cues, for those that appreciate the wood aspect of older cues. I have attached a photo of a much more "rare" cue- an H Betti cue- from the later 70's - the cue is Brazilian Rosewood and this person, H Betti purchased one of the Rich cue companies, and was producing U.S. cues that eventually became an Asian cue importer, the now known Imperial Billiards conglomerate. I found this "rare" cue and turned it over to H Betti's grandson who runs Imperial now- he never owned one of of his grandfather's original Rich cue Brazilian rosewood cues. BTW- H Betti was the guy who made bar pool tables a mainstay in America- he was a true pool participation visionary who most know little about his history- .
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Biloxi Boy said:
Just for a second, or two, let's use the thinking part of our brains. Okay? Ready?

The seller says the cue is "rare", but will let go of his prize for $100.00.
Based upon this alone information alone, how "rare" do you think it could be?

Did you ask the Seller how many more of these cues he had, and what discount could you expect if purchasing multiple units?

Time's up. Does any of the above produce the slightest spark of ideation?

My suspicion is that the LSU Frat Boys are up late again, but just in case not, please provide us with the following statistical data for research purposes:
Age. Zodiac Sign? Highest Grade Attended? Highest Grade Completed? Where? Favorite Subject in School? Do you wear hats indoors? Thank you for your cooperation.
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Hell, my last girlfriend was rare, some would say 1 of a kind, doesn't make her valuable. I'd be damned if I'd give $100 or even $50 for her
 
mikemosconi said:
First of all, the cue is most probably 1960s into early 1970s era Rich cue. Secondly, it appears to be in really decent shape for the age of the cue. The cue has a fair amount of decorative plastic butt sleeve work - which this era cue collector would find appealing ( think Doc Frye cues, Karl Meyer cues).
It is not a "rare" cue. The cue was made to appeal to a level of player below the high end custom ( GB, Rambow, Martin, etc.) and production level( Palmer, Paradise) purchase. The cue's appeal was to the player who had advanced beyond a house cue and was playing at a level and price point towards an early entrance into more serious pool.
A $100 price tag is very reasonable on this cue. Cleaned up to the max, without a full refinish, it would fetch $100 easily on the public internet auction markets. Anyone with an interest in 1960's era cues as a collection goal would want to add a Rich cue like this one- they were a part of the pool scene, and this cue would fit into a general 60's early to mid 70's era cue collection quite nicely.
The wood is very possibly Brazilian Rosewood - which from the "rare" concept, you won't find it today in newer cues, for those that appreciate the wood aspect of older cues. I have attached a photo of a much more "rare" cue- an H Betti cue- from the later 70's - the cue is Brazilian Rosewood and this person, H Betti purchased one of the Rich cue companies, and was producing U.S. cues that eventually became an Asian cue importer, the now known Imperial Billiards conglomerate. I found this "rare" cue and turned it over to H Betti's grandson who runs Imperial now- he never owned one of of his grandfather's original Rich cue Brazilian rosewood cues. BTW- H Betti was the guy who made bar pool tables a mainstay in America- he was a true pool participation visionary who most know little about his history- .View attachment 794211
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So this guy destroyed 9' pool in the USA? I'd burn that cue!
 
jasonlaus said:
So this guy destroyed 9' pool in the USA? I'd burn that cue!
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Funny😁 but he goes way back to the 1930s in the northeast with bars - adding pool tables, the disc bowling machines, and he was a big juke box introducer as well to the bar scene.
A visionary bc he saw the bar as more than just booze and food. - he recognized the benefit of revenue add-ons when you have a captive audience - isn’t that what all the multi trillion dollar social media sites went for by adding advertising to their social or informational platforms - bars and TVs on steroids🙄
 
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